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Mind control through false information is Satan's basic method of deception. God has spoken to us through his word about his true nature and the true nature of the world he created. --Dave

You feel the car is moving and not the road under it. --Dave

All of our sensory perception is that the clouds, sun and moon move across the sky of an immovable earth. From planes we move across an immovable earth. We never imagine or sense that the earth is moving. --Dave

Spin any object and see if any thing on it stays there. A spinning planet defies physical law and miraculously holds everything on it, although things can move around on it, wow. --Dave

You would circle a globe to stay due east, and you would circle the flat earth model to do the same thing. --Dave

You have no interest in this so I suggest you should stop wasting your valuable time here. I'm sure you've wasted at least 2 hours, about the same amount of time it would take you to see a video. --Dave

Or just begin with a 20 minute one or watch 10 minutes of an hour one. It's funny how so many of you, who want to stick your head in the sand, want every one else to do the same. --Dave

Gravity is an attempt to explain why everything does not fly off a globe that is spinning at the speed of sound, which is what basic physics demands. --Dave

Evidence that we never went to the moon; 1. No pictures of stars. 2. Flag waving where no wind exists. I will keep adding to this list. --Dave

So we had the technology to get to the moon, take a picture of the earth but not the stars. I don't think so. Some have argued that the moon, without an atmosphere to interfere with, would be an ideal place to take pics of the stars. In any event, the absence of visible stars from the Apollo...

They could have turned the cameras to the stars and adjusted the lens for all to see. If they could show us the earth they could have shown us the stars. --Dave

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This is a good video to begin with for those who are interested in a presentation of visual evidence for a flat, stationary earth. --Dave

Go outside tonight and turn on your flash light and see if it blocks out the stars. They could have turned the cameras to the stars and adjusted the lens for all to see. --Dave

I want to make this clear. I am not trying to make an argument. This thread is not theoretical. It is primarily visual because of the nature of the evidence. If you don't want to see any of them then move on to some thing else. --Dave

We have the sun, moon, and stars. Other planets? What are stars? It's funny how every time the Apollo astronauts were ask about the stars, they say they didn't really see any and the so called "videos" from the moon don't show any either. --Dave

The visual evidence is powerful, this topic is not arguments, it's visible evidence. This forum allows for video, and I have watch many. --Dave

Gravity was invented in order to deal with the problem that, according to standard physics, everything would fly off a globe spinning at the speed of sound. --Dave

I've seen it. It's refutable, see other videos. --Dave