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  1. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Back to our subject. Astronauts who kick up dust, dirt, or what ever is supposedly on the surface of the moon, and a lunar modal landing that did not is a clear contradiction and evidence that the event was staged and no one went to the moon. --Dave
  2. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    All cosmological theories require a presupposition that may or may not be true. No human was present at the beginning of the universe and life, no one can say with absolute certainty that the universe and life have a beginning. No one has been in a black hole, no one has seen dark energy or...
  3. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Can any one disagreed with Newton? Copernicus? Einstein? Hawking? Tegmark and Guth? Which cosmological theory do you fully understand and accept? Steady state, big band, relativity, string, bounce, quantum, multi universe. How about creation and intelligent design? --Dave
  4. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I once thought the entire Bible was myth and that everything evolved and God did not exist. I decided early on to investigate both sides of every issue. Take some time to research the flat earth model and see what evidence they present and compare the two models from every issue. The distance...
  5. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Funny how none of it got on the LEM when it landed. It was on the astronauts shoes but not on the landing pads. --Dave
  6. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The lunar module was about 13,000 lbs. The astronauts weight with suits would be about 200 to 300 lbs I would suspect. The 300 lb astronauts kick up dust as they walk and run on the moons surface and leave deep clear footprints, but a 13,000 lb module descending at a greater speed than the...
  7. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Notice from this short video of astronauts walking on the moon all the dust, dirt, sand, they kid up into the air. --Dave https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=sfp&hsimp=yhs-001&hspart=omr&p=video+of+astronaut+walking+on+the+moon#id=2&vid=edaa7507d6d92cccd2ed036a439fa487&action=click
  8. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    How much did the lunar module weigh? --Dave
  9. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The clearly defined foot prints would be impossible on a planet with no moisture on it. The foot prints would be undefined like when we walk on dry sand. --Dave
  10. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I looked back at every post, I posted a video "10 reasons why people think the moon landing was a hoax", which gives both sides of the story. You responded with a video that dealt only with the flag waving. Can you address the module problem? --Dave
  11. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Yes, I watched, the amount and degree of flag waving is not due to the manipulation of the twisting of the pole. So the experiment was not a duplication of the event that supposedly took place on the moon. But that is only one anomaly, there many all of taken together show a staged event. My...
  12. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Nothing to say about the moon module? --Dave
  13. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    You're the one who didn't watch the video. Orion passes though the belts into outer space and then must pass through them on the way back to earth, nothing there about three weeks in the radiation belt. --Dave
  14. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The lunar module pic from NASA is lacking two things that should be clearly visible that prove we never went to the moon. 1. The rocket blast that slows the module as it lands would have left a small crater under the module. 2. The dust created by the rocket blast would have left dirt on the...
  15. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    NASA engineer, "Orion will pass through the Van Allen Belts. An area of dangerous radiation. Shielding will be put to the test as the vehicle cuts through the waves of radiation. Sensors aboard will record radiation levels for scientists to study. We must solve these challenges 'before' we send...
  16. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I understand and had always accepted the Copernican Model of the universe. I have not accepted the multi universe model because it is not empirically verifiable. I never gave any consideration of a flat earth model, other than that it was the accepted model of the ancient world, until about a...
  17. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Empirical evidence and logic trump theoretical physics. Explain how things "visibly" move through the atmosphere except a spinning earth. --Dave
  18. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Humans, animals, birds, planes of all kinds, vehicles of all kinds, are solid physical objects that move though the atmosphere that surrounds everything on earth. But we are told that the solid physical rotating earth does not move through the atmosphere that surrounds it. If it did we would...
  19. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I'm going to visit my kids and grand kids today, I wish you all a very merry Christmas. --Dave
  20. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The atmosphere is not a "container", we are not "in" the atmosphere as if "in" a physical object. The air and space are not physical objects. We and the earth are physical objects and are not equal to or the same as air or space. We and the earth, planes and trains move through the air and space...
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