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That's a false equivalence argument. We are not "in" the earth, which would be the equivalence of "in" the the train, as it moves. "In" is not the same as "on" in your argument. In the train is not the same thing as on the earth. The air is not the earth or the same thing as the physical...

I want to finish this rotating earth problem first. --Dave

If you had watched the videos you would have seen the horizon bend both in and out. --Dave

A commercial jet travels at 600 to 800 mph. We can see a jet travel across the sky. Strange that we cannot see the ground moving at 1000 mph from a jet. --Dave

Do you know how fast the earth is said to rotate? --Dave

All we ever see from ISS are short clips. And you are saying the ISS moves but the earth cannot be seen to move from that altitude from the ISS? Notice how very different the videos that I posted are from the ISS video. And if you have not viewed any of the three short videos I posted then...

Oh really? --Dave

So gravity pulls down the gases that surround it? Do we lose air all at once or gradually? I just posted three videos from high altitude rockets that clearly show the earth is not moving. Look and you will see it too. --Dave

Look at the video evidence I have just posted and tell me if you don't see what I see. --Dave

This video is shot with a fish eye lens which is why you see a curvature one way and then bend the opposite direction at times. Clearly the horizon rises with the rocket as it should on a flat earth. The horizon, when seen across the middle of the video is straight as it should on a flat...

In just one minute you can see the earth is not moving in this NASA video. --Dave

In this NASA video we can easily see the earth is not moving as this rock ascends. The horizon line curves back and forth because a fish eye lens is used. --Dave

Yes, because we will be arguing about what we both have seen! Does that not make sense? --Dave

How does the atmosphere move???? Please explain this. --Dave

The eyes give us sensory perception and we can see motion. We know when we are standing still and we know when things are standing still around us or if we are in motion or if something is in motion around us. --Dave

You can see motion, vision is one of the five senses. That's why I said you can sense motion. You can close your eyes and sense that you are moving. From now on if you ask I stupid question or make a stupid comment I will simply ignore you. --Dave

You know exactly what I mean. --Dave

There are videos that show the earth not moving at very high altitude, but how would you know that since you won't watch any of them. NASA is the only place you will find video of a curved and moving earth. All other private video at high altitude show no movement. --Dave

I have often watched a video first in order to respond in debate. Those who have seen some of the videos are already talking with me about them. The answer is not another video in this case. If you view one of them you will see why. Trust me, I was not into flat earth in the least before I saw...

You watch my video of 10 reasons why people don't believe we went to the moon first, and I will view your video. Ok? --Dave