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Sun, moon, and stars are close and small and not far away on flat earth model, compared to globe earth model. The heliocentric model presumes the stars are millions of miles away. I know that NASA and Star Trek say differently but sadly moon landings were no more real than Buck Rogers...

No, that's not the logical conclusion given the distance and that the atmospheric conditions over water prohibit a viewing distance that looking up into the sky does not. --Dave

No, I don't have one but I have priced them. The new P1000 is coming soon and I may wait for that one instead. --Dave

The old jelly bean test, wow, how could I have missed that one. I surrender. The obvious perpendicular aspect of ships and buildings, etc. in the distance is proof that there is no curvature of the earth if ever there was a singular proof. This pic which is supposed to demonstrate a...

I didn't just put up a picture, I linked to another debate site on this so others could read it. I don't post just for you, I hope others read it. I don't know that we have any real knowledge about the sun, moon, or stars today. I'm not just content to have explained any one specific thing as...

The horizon line blocks what goes beyond it and is below it. Ships, landscapes, and cityscapes are perpendicular and never slant away from the viewer at distances which would be the case if there was a curve. Ships never disappear bow first as they should if the earth were curved. Ships also...

Or maybe a flat circle, not a perfect circle though. --Dave

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All flying shows a flat stationary earth or we would not be having this debate. That globe earth appeals to the sun to prove a moving globe is counter intuitive. Because we live on the earth one would think that we would be able to know the shape of it from it and not from moving sun, moon and...

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I can't make you or anyone else consider how the path of the sun would work on the flat earth model covered by a dome, but you can't debunk what you have not even looked at. I'm no fool for investigating and trying to understand flat earth any more than the space time block universe or...

The rays of the sun are not like railroad tracks. We know railroad tracks are parallel because see that at our feet right in front of us. The rays of the sun are not parallel because they merge at a distant point whereas railroad tracks do not merge in the distance. The appearance of merging...

I'm compiling a list of what we observe and how it is explained from both flat and globe perspectives. You, and others, have provided the globe perspective and I have researched and presented the flat earth perspective with some help from others as well. I wanted this to be a debate and a...

Eric Dubay: Star Trails Explained Here is good explanation from the flat earth perspective on this. Please remember I'm not saying it's correct. I spend hours watching video from both perspectives on this. --Dave

The globe earth model denies; 1. the existence of perspective 2. horizons we cannot see beyond 3. a limited viewing distance 4. horizons at eye level 5. that water is level. The study of art is the study of nature as it truly is. --Dave

Sun rays are never parallel. The one proof argument from the suns, etc. path just does not explain the whole earth. I just don't see that putting all my money on that one argument will win me the whole pot. It's a good argument, but there is just other arguments/facts that contradict this one...

There is a dome over flat earth and that is what determines how the heavenly bodies move over a flat earth. That the sun, moon, and stars are planets has been challenged. Electromagnetism is also a factor to consider. --Dave

Are you trying to make another argument? I thought one was enough. --Dave

If there was only one aspect to this debate, and only one short video was all the evidence we had, then you might be right but since it's not, the only thing that's finished is your participation with your one argument. --Dave