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As I said, the aether was already understood to exist since Newton and you ignored it. I have quotes that say that the movement of the earth was not detected and the aether that is the medium for the transmission of light, etc., was sacrificed by heliocentrics to save heliocentrism. Mapping is...

We don't need to be pulled down. --Dave

No one here really needs your mindless commentary that has only one point you make over and over. If you have anything intelligent to add to this thread then fine, but if all you want to do is "ridicule" this thread then once is enough. --Dave

Here is my first response to the Testing Flattards - Part 1 The first point is that all the oldest maps are flat maps and the globe map is a revision or altered creation of the flat map. One might say that's obvious because the ancient world did not know they were on a globe. Yet all past and...

Gravity is needed force to keep everything from flying off a spinning ball and keep the moon and planets in their orbit. If the sun, moon, and stars are not spinning orbiting planets and the earth is not a spinning ball then we don't need that kind of force. You presume that we would all float...

There are a number of factors in determining a cosmology. There is no such thing as a single decisive argument for any thing that is about the existence of God, creation vs evolution, time vs timelessness For God. That does not mean there are unlimited arguments either. We can put the...

A debate is where "opposing arguments" are put forward. Saying the arguments I put forward are "just lies", is not an argument. The Michelson–Morley experiment was to demonstrate the motion of earth as it orbits the sun not to prove if aether existed. The aether was already believed to exist...

Ok, I have viewed the first one and I will view all the Testing Flattards videos and respond to each one, one at a time. I expect a response from you on last post on lack of testable movement of earth. I already know that does not mean the earth is flat but it is still the one main and modern...

We are here to examine arguments from both sides. We leave to each person to determine which ones they think are bad and which ones are not. Glad you're back. This time around I'm taking your advice and I'm going to concentrate on written arguments and not just video. I will analyze the videos...

There is no way on this forum that we can deal with all the arguments all at once. Let's stick to one argument at a time. --Dave

Yet here we are. You believe, "There are no reasonable arguments for a flat Earth, Dave. It's a delusional conspiracy theory with no basis in reality whatsoever." I certainly believe reasonable arguments have been made for flat earth, that does not mean the earth is flat, it means it's worth...

I never said flat earth is "correct" because it's the oldest, I just said it was the oldest. Then came geocentrism around 300 BC then heliocentrism in the 1500s. A form of heliocentrism is offered at 300 BC but was rejected for geocentrism. Aristotle believed that ships disappearing bottom...

That's the whole point of a debate, both sides make their case and others can add to it. Everyone involved becomes more informed and can make up their own mind on the matter. Flat earth is the oldest cosmology "The flat Earth model is an archaic conception of Earth's shape as a plane or disk...

Fine with me. Can we keep it as "The earth is flat and we never went to the moon"? --Dave

You are always most welcome in my thread. Flat earth is as important a subject as any other historical and Biblical topic. Not only do we have flat earth followers today we also have geocentric believers with us today as well. All cosmological views should be allowed to be debated here. Flat...

What thread are you merging with The earth is flat and we never went to the moon? --Dave

This is easy. You see one horizon line that is the where the water line is clearly visible, beyond that there is a horizon line you cannot clearly see because of a slight haze in the distance so there is distortion, but you can see the reflection of the transmission lines being...

Yes, we cannot be sure who is telling the true or not any more. This is why debates like this are so important. --Dave

Don't put you arguments in quotes because then I can't simply reply with what you have written. --Dave

My point does not mean the sun goes underground or under the ocean. I have explained it clearly and put up a video that shows it. We cannot see anything in the far distance that drops below the horizon line of our "eye level". This might be beyond your mental capacity to grasp. I understand the...