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As shown in my graph, the sun over land mass, land that is above sea level, blocks the horizon line. --Dave

Your right, I should not have said almost. The video I posted shows this happening. Thanks. A sun moving over a flat earth appears to move downward until it hits the horizon line. That means the sun gradually descends which means the space between earth and sun gets smaller and smaller until...

The laws of perspective in drawing are based on geometry not speculation. Plane (not simple) geometry informs us how to draw things accurately. Plane geometry in perspective is drawing the world as we see it, accurately and realistically. Plane geometry in perspective We have vanishing points...

No, the sun will not just shrink to a dot on the flat earth perspective model. The space between the sun and the earth disappears before the sun itself disappears which is probably why it appears to be from the bottom up. There is one video I posted that shows that almost happening though...

The graph speaks for itself and is correct about what the flat earth model is. I don't see the need to defend it. --Dave

To merge into the horizon is not the same as to sink below it. But other than that every thing else you say is correct to me and there needs to be confirmation of these other factors. As I have said flat earth has more to prove but without a viable horizon model it would die right here. --Dave

The graph incorporates it's own visual logical conclusion. There's no debating it. --Dave

This graph accurately shows what we all see from our perspective with our limited viewing capacity. The sun is obviously small enough and close enough in order to be consistent with this perspective reality. --Dave

Your model is not a fact of my model, mine has perspective yours does not. Anyone one can clearly see the difference. --Dave

In this model the sun hits and goes to a horizon we can see, then beyond it to a distance that we cannot see. We are limited as to how far we can see into the distance, horizontally, across the earth because of perspective and the density of the earth's atmosphere in the troposphere. We can...

You think I've fallen into a "black hole" called flat earth? That's a good line, "gone over some 'event horizon'", it has humor. Writing arguments is not behavior, I'm not behaving badly by arguing flat earth in opposition to spinning globe earth. It's not stupid to see what is meant by...

That the sun "appears" to be the exact same size from sun rise to noon and noon to sun set is very much disputed. But because of perspective even on a spinning globe the sun would appear larger at noon simply because the viewer is actually closer to it than at sun rise and sun set. So, nothing...

This graph is not only in correct perspective to the stick figures in it, it's also in correct perspective to us viewing it. We are a part of this graph. --Dave

Your graph does "not" show the sun overhead nor into the distance in perspective. My graph shows the sun overhead and how it descends into the distance in perspective. Your graph does not tell the whole story mine does. --Dave PS In geometry not everything is a triangle. But I'm not going...

Geometry in perspective sucks for you guys, I get it. That's why you don't use it. By ignoring it you present a false view and a false prediction of flat earth. --Dave

My graph is irrefutably geometrically accurate. The sun on a flat earth will come down to the horizon and move past it beyond our ability to see it. --Dave

Your graph does not consider perspective as mine does so it does not represent how we actually see the world. Everything I have said is true about how we see the world in perspective. Get real. --Dave

The horizon is where sky meets earth at our eye level. The path of the sun and our path on flat earth are parallel. No matter where we look along the horizon there's a distance we cannot see beyond. The sun will simply merge into the horizon and the distance in elevation will not be detectable...

I just gave you the explanation. You simply don't believe that explanation is true. You don't believe in perspective. I get that. Anyway, I'm gong to graph out my own flat earth perspective matrix. There is site called, "Trying to understand the math behind the perspective matrix", but...

I will move on to eclipses but in the past we were jumping to quickly from one aspect of this debate to another. And it was video vs video which I agree was not what this website was really intended for. I have decided to take the slower route and try to put as much as I can in written...