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  1. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    No one has to see the whole video to get the point I'm making about what we actually see from high altitude balloons vs what we see from the ISS. --Dave
  2. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    How Electromagnetic Propulsion Will Work "For decades, the only means of space travel have been rocket engines that run off of chemical propulsion. Now, at the beginning of the 21st century, aerospace engineers are devising innovative ways to take us to the stars, including light propulsion...
  3. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    When we speak of atmospheric refraction we're not talking about what's happening inside our eye we're talking about what's happening outside of our eye. Not everything is being refracted outside of our eye due to atmospheric conditions. We always see the actual world before us unless certain...
  4. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    A refraction is a change in direction of light rays. Not all light rays change direction. Therefore not everything we see is a refraction. --Dave
  5. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    supra- a prefix meaning “above, over” (supraorbital) or “beyond the limits of, outside of” (supramolecular; suprasegmental). I merely thought you were using the word "supra" to mean a supra-refraction or a supra-mirage. You were not specific so I was not sure what you were getting at. And...
  6. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I don't make the graphs, but they need to be exaggerated in order to make their point because of the scale involved, as you have pointed out. The horizon line from our perspective always hits us in the middle of our eyes as we look straight/level/parallel to the ground beneath us. Since it is...
  7. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Let begin the video presentations of earth from high altitude balloons. What do we see? Make your comments. Enjoy. --Dave
  8. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You circle a target you don't orbit it. --Dave
  9. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    In the globe model it is said we actually look down at the horizon and it is always illustrated that way. I don't know what the calculation is but you can see the prediction from the second pic that the higher up you go the farther down you will be looking at the horizon. --Dave
  10. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I told you already: 1. Perspective 2. Atmospheric density 3. Horizon refraction --Dave
  11. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The question is not how or who receives data, it's can we rely on the images NASA supplies us with about the globe and space. I explained to you why I won't go along with your train of thought. You'll just have to understand that apparently God has not predetermined that I should do so. --Dave
  12. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    or·bit ˈôrbət/Submit noun 1. the curved path of a celestial object or spacecraft around a star, planet, or moon, especially a periodic elliptical revolution. The title of the video misuses the word orbit. Th plane in the video is circling not orbiting. --Dave
  13. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    AC-130 Spectre Gunship Orbiting Ok, I watched the video, but how does it show orbiting? --Dave
  14. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You're assuming there are spacecraft that are "continually orbiting" a globe. You and nobody else can prove that. We have been bouncing radio signals off the "Ionosphere" for years so perhaps we have been bouncing phone and GPS signals as well. Perhaps the Ionosphere is the top of the Dome...
  15. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    No, as per reasons already given. --Dave
  16. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    My comment was not in response to your post. My criticism is of NASA/ISS not your experiment. When asked how to answer your experiment I have answered with how Flat Earth deals with how the sun works on the flat earth in respect to perspective, atmospheric refraction, and atmospheric density...
  17. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I stand corrected on my terminology. I should have originally said, "or anything else that is circling at low earth altitude". I see my mistake thanks for pointing it out. --Dave
  18. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The whole flat earth movement is built on images that provide visible empirical evidence for a flat earth. If you want to destroy flat earth you must attack their evidence and their arguments in support of their claim. The globe earth has also been presented through visuals of one kind or...
  19. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Orbit presumes globe, it cannot prove what it assumes to be true. An orbit over a flat earth by definition is not possible anyway. Seeing a fast high altitude blimp of a craft streaking across the sky does not prove it's orbiting. And we cannot verify what is powering it or how long it's been...
  20. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The globe earth is proven true through the images supposedly from space from NASA. You're arguing from a conclusion drawn from it's premise--circular reasoning. Seeing a tiny blimp of a craft flying fast and high across the sky tells me anything about it. Everything we say about it would be...
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