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  1. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Neither you nor I, or anyone else, accept for a very small group of people who are part of NASA, know anything about the ISS, with absolute verifiable certainty. We only know what we are told and shown from NASA. These are examples of flaws from ISS video. 1. A moth in the ISS. 2...
  2. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    These 5 mind-melting thought experiments helped Albert Einstein come up with his most revolutionary scientific ideas Thought experiments are theoretical arguments very much like theological arguments. They are true or false based on the rules of rationality not on physical experiments...
  3. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Thanks Clete, I know I put everything about myself at risk. Trust me, I put my whole carrier at risk with open theism and lost almost everything. I had no doubts about openness, and still don't, but this sincerely has me baffled. And I'm studying this as we go, I had already studied...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Mockery will get you nowhere. I never said balloons hold up th ISS. --Dave
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I know what they are. In answer to the question: How do satellites work over a flat earth, the answer is balloons. The ISS is not a satellite. We can bounce radio signals of the Ionosphere, we can sent up satellites on balloons, we have electromagnetic and microwave technologies that are...
  6. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    High altitude video showing the sunrise with possible light hitting the dome. --Dave
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Tesla's objection to Einstein's relativity is well known. Needlessly displaying your knowledge of atoms does not address any point I'm making. When asked to explain a flat earth vs the globe, Tesla's electromagnetism is adopted in opposition to Einstein's gravity waves. I'm not proving FE or...
  8. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    My answer is clear and easy to understand. --Dave
  9. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Here's an example of a fake ISS and Shuttle docking. Do I have to explain why this is phony? I'll say why if no one can figure it out. The ISS is still a mystery to me at this point. As I've said it's clearly not flying 200 some miles above us. I'll show from high altitude balloons that the...
  10. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    What ad hom attack have I made??? Perspective is a reality that is explained through art. The horizon is where the ground beneath us rises up to our eye level. The higher up we go the farther we can see over the flat plane. Everything that we cannot see is "beyond" the horizon because it's...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    It's been said I've been led astray and it follows that by advocating flat earth I'm leading others astray. If it was not for the sake of Christianity itself neither Clete or anyone else would have charged me with all the derogatory ad homs. To Clete I "make the whole Christian world look like...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    It seemed to me that was what you were saying. If I was wrong than I apologise. There are many who do say the suns rays that hit the earth are parallel. But rather than say I was mistaken about what you were saying and giving me a chance to consider your comments again, you just call me more...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Here is a very interesting article about the Titanic Did An Optical Illusion Doom the Titanic? By Rebecca Boyle The article explains that a superior mirage caused the ship to sink and delayed the rescue of the passengers. But a superior mirage would have lifted the ship and the iceberg...
  14. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    If I didn't see problems with both views I would not be saying I see good arguments from both. You all never seem to read some of the things I write or you're old like me and suffer memory loss. Now where was I? Perspective is how we see everything. Now look at the light poles in this...
  15. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Recover satellite then send it off again. Great plan NASA. This would work on a flat earth too. Right? --Dave
  16. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Wow, balloons saves money. Who knew??? --Dave
  17. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    There are videos that show the ISS in space, or what looks like it. I cannot confirm or deny what is up there, how it stays up there, or for how long. Could data be received from a satellite hung below a balloon and we don't know it? Here we have very interesting footage of a balloon carrying...
  18. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Not being a flat earther per sa, I have to keep researching their arguments to make sure I understand them properly before I can present them. Not all of them agree in every detail. There's a lot of info out there from a number of sources so It's a long slow process. The sun itself, what its...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    That why we look at the videos from both the ISS and balloons to see for ourselves. --Dave
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Not all flat earthers believe the sun is a disk. The surface of the sun is not the center of the sun and a line that continues past the sun's surface is where the rays of the sun all meet which is why they are not parallel. I know you will not yield on this point and that if I believe the...
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