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If it's so simple, then it must be easy to explain. So explain.

Please provide the chapter and verse where it describes someone who is called but does not believe as someone who has been made alive. Because I can provide PLENTY of verses that say the exact opposite, where God calls people and yet they continue in their deadness.

You explained nothing, merely stated your belief. It does, by contrasting faith with works. You can't contrast two things if they're the same.

No, it doesn't. The verse doesn't say anything about being saved PRIOR to believing the things of God.

Saying it doesn't make it so. No, it would not. Except that belief isn't a work. It's simply an acknowledgment that one cannot work their way into heaven, and as a result, one puts their faith in the one who COMPLETED His work on the cross. If belief were a work, you'd be right. The...

It's WHAT I'm disagreeing with that makes a difference. That's before God calls them. How about AFTER He calls them, can they, of their own free will, decide to accept or reject Him AFTER He calls them? Try addressing the point of contention, and maybe you'll see WHY I'm using those other...

Not my fault. Try harder to understand. Thank you for answering my question. So, in other words, it refers to both Christians AND non-Christians (who are actually just Christians who don't realize it yet)? "One day"? Didn't God predestine them from before the foundation of the earth to be...

That's because you're stuck in your little box and not even trying to see out of it. And my point is that man CAN seek after God after He calls them, John 6:44. If you disagree, answer my question: If God calls, can a man respond?

In other words: GRACE IS NOT IRRESISTIBLE

There you go putting blinders on yourself again. Laser focused on a single verse despite being given verses that go beyond (not contradict) it. I am in agreement with Romans 8:30. I disagree with your a-priori beliefs regarding it.

I didn't ask if sheep were believers. I asked if sheep were Christians. Please answer the question: Does the term "sheep" refer to Christians?

So God calls, and no one responds? What's the point of God calling if no one responds? And wouldn't that invalidate John 6:44? Because as it says: No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day. - John 6:44...

2 Thessalonians 2:13-14; Romans 10:9-15

Answer the question, do you think that sheep refers to Christians? If not, then I agree with you, because sheep refers to Israel, as Jesus "was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." If so, then we disagree, because not once does Paul refer to believers in the Body of...

So does the "none" in Romans 3:11 include those who ARE called by God? John 6:44 Because last I checked, both verses are true.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, B57! God called out to everyone in every single one of those passages, and guess what happened? THEY REJECTED GOD! And it's BECAUSE John 6:44 (AND it's corollary that man CAN come if he is called, and the corollary to that, which is that man can also REJECT God after God...

Which you (and marke) think means Christians, no?

Never said there was anything that did. Man CAN respond to God's calling, despite him being dead.

Saying it doesn't make it so. Duh. Matthew 23:37 - Jesus came to Israel, calling out to her for three years. Israel refused to be gathered by God. Hosea 3:1 - God loved the children of Israel. But they went after other gods instead. Isaiah 30:15 - God wanted to save Israel through returning...

Believers are not believers until they believe.