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Cool! I'll be anxious to see what you think of it. Incidentally, have you ever noticed that the craters on the Moon and elsewhere are almost universally round? Do you suppose that every meteor hit the Moon's surface at or near a 90° angle? Doesn't sound right, does it? Also, why are there so...

Those are not "not natural". They aren't even mutations.

I haven't been following your discussion very closely and am not certain just what you meant here so forgive me if I'm jumping to unfounded conclusions here but, "not natural"? Just what do you think you mean? I don't intend to start a whole discussion on this, I just thought you might want to...

No one is whining but you. I understood your point and responded to it directly, which you missed entirely proving my contention that you could not answer a single argument that I might choose to present in defense of a young earth paradigm. I have built my entire life - my entire life - upon...

Except that there are real rational arguments that can be made in support of that contention that neither you nor anyone else can answer. Don't attempt to highjack the thread on this topic. If you want to debate the age of the Earth, start another thread.

That isn't true. Of course, you concern yourself with what they think. Otherwise, you wouldn't bother with street evangelism (or any other sort of evangelism for that matter). It matters David and you know it. The fact that everyone in the room knows, including yourself, is that the world is...

You're projecting, Dave. You forget somehow that this entire discussion is still here for everyone to read. I've spent the last several months making actual arguments and BEGGING you to do the same. The problem here is that every so called argument you've presented has beendirectly refuted...

David, You've gotta stop with the biblical arguments. At best you're making interpretive arguments anyway which by their very nature do not prove anything. But more important than that is the fact that the Earth IS NOT FLAT and everyone knows it. You're effectively arguing against the veracity...

Dave, Seriously now. I want for you to watch this short video. (The other one I posted if very long and boring but full of good information.) It's just a few minutes long so I want you to watch it. I don't expect it to convince you of anything. I want you to watch it because I want you to see...

Limited, yes but unreliable? The thrust of such an objection is to undermine reason itself. No scientifically minded person would make such an unqualified objection. Instead, they would acknowledge the limitations of our senses and insist that experimental results be confirmed independently...

The Sun is the EXACT same angular size in the sky AT ALL TIMES! It does not change in apparent size at all - period.* Flat Earth debunked. Clete * There is a tiny change in apparent size of the Sun through the year because of the fact that the Earth's orbit is not perfectly circular and we...

I took him off ignore because I was reminded of something I had intended to present as an alternative cosmology that wasn't complete lunatic insanity. He'll be back on it if he doesn't drop this flat earth stupidity.

Because they state that the universe is self-contradictory.

Dave, I've remembered something that has caused me to remove you from my ignore list! There is something I want you to see. I happen to agree with you about the need to question modern cosmology. Relativity and Quantum Mechanics don't cut it for me any more than they do for you. But this flat...

A decrease that would be dramatic in the extreme! 3000 miles is 1.26% of its actual distance. It would have to be made of mostly nothing at all for the gravity to remain the same. Flat Earthers know this. It doesn't move them an inch. They are fully irrational. Well, they consider the whole...

cool video. Flat earthers must believe that the moon is many times smaller than it is which accounts for its apparent size in the sky. I wonder then how they account for the fact that our current understanding of both the Moon's size (it's mass) and it's distance accounts perfectly for the...

I agree that this has been a terrific thread, one of the best in a long time, in fact. But I just think Derf's point is right. It's become counter productive and while I'm more than happy to continue debating the topic, Dave is no longer debating. He has barely debated the topic from the...

I have done no such thing! I've done just the precise opposite. I have answered questions and rebutted arguments with sound reason and with the patience of Moses. I've not responded to moronic arguments with more moronic arguments. I've not met the fool with foolishness. In fact, I've learned...

I agree. I'm not questioning his salvation or even most of his doctrine, just his intellectual honesty concerning this specific issue for now. It's not as unimportant as it may seem. Unbelievers pay attention to the things Christian say and one Christian saying stupid things does more damage...

I defended Dave for months about discussing this topic when I believed he was simply exploring it as a mental exercise. He was lying then and he's lying now. He knows perfectly well that personal attacks aren't the problem. I addressed every argument he presented and he routinely ignored every...