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Which I granted and stated factually that, if they do so, they will increase their elevation (above sea level) by eight inches per mile squared. If the plane is not increasing its ASL then it is, by one means or another (i.e. electronically or manually), making course corrections - even if they...

Interesting idea but crapy images. The video is out of focus the whole time as shown by his shots of the Moon at the end. Not that I'm criticizing much at all. Getting any such image would be extremely hard to do because satellites can't be made to "sit still" for the camera shot with the right...

You can repeat this to yourself untill you turn blue and pass out but it won't make it true. You're sounding more and more like Einstein. No, they absolutely do not. I'm finished repeating the same arguments. It isn't faked and even if it were, you point would be irrelevant. The problem here...

I swear that I seriously wonder whether someone has hijacked your account and that I am not talking to the real David. What in Hell does auto pilot have to do with what I said? How in sulfur smelling Hades, does your pointing out something so ridiculously obvious alter one single point of what...

You're implying here that there is some sort of question begging going on here and that is flatly not the case. Unless your cosmology denies that apples don't fall from trees then what we refer to as gravity is in your cosmology as much as it is in everyone else's. And whether one is talking...

This is actually a somewhat of a critical point that should be addressed. Your claim here isn't true. The flat Earth and Earth-centered models do not come anywhere close to accounting for everything that the Helio Centric model does. NOT EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE! In fact, it was precisely the...

They absolutely do make such corrections. In the case of fighters or other high-tech aircraft, the corrections are made by the plane itself. The altitude (in almost all cases) is controlled by the altimeter which does not measure the distance from the ground but rather, is based on atmospheric...

Yes, it is, Dave. The oceans are no more attached to the Earth than the atmosphere is or than you are for that matter. The atmosphere sticks around for the same reason you do. You live at the bottom of an ocean of air. The question is what keeps the water, the atmosphere and you on the Earth...

I'm sorry I get upset. It's more frustration than it is anything else. These videos you post seem to me to be so transparently dumb that it just feels like everyone should be able to detect it. That clearly isn't the case and so I'll try to be more patient. Clete

Yes, level to the pull of gravity! It's just the same as saying that it's perpendicular to both the pull of gravity and the curved surface of the Earth because it's the pull of gravity that curves the surface of the Earth in the first place. Level and flat are not synonymous. You can use them...

Ah! I see what you meant now. Sorry, I didn't get it. You bet! You have to listen carefully because the narrator has a very thick accent but it tells the story quite well. P.S. That video has fewer than 1000 views and only 14 likes, one of which is mine. It deserves far more in spite of his...

He means how far. He's saying that Newton demonstrated that the same force that makes apples fall to the ground is the same that makes the Moon orbit the Earth - the Moon is in free fall and that it stays in orbit because it travels vertically relative to the Earth's surface at the same rate at...

I don't know where you're getting this stuff from but all of these points are wrong, Dave. No one knows why the Earth is tilted. We creationist believe that it was created that way. The only paradigm from which your objection works is from an atheistic worldview where such phenomena requires a...

That is an excellent point! We can, for example, know that Newton got something very close to being exactly right about universal gravitation and the nature of the Moon's orbit because he predicted how long one orbit of the Moon should take based on how far something falls in one second here on...

By the way, I have met with utter failure on my attempt to photograph the Lyrid Meteor Shower. Meteors are difficult to photograph under any circumstances but utterly impossible to image when it's overcast. What's really bad is that I had perfect viewing conditions the morning before which is...

Which is exactly what happens when they fly in a truly straight trajectory. But typically, they flat in a level trajectory which is where gravity comes in. No, it isn't saying that David! This is not complicated! To fly a flat (level) course is to keep a course that is perpendicular to the...

The videos you've posted about supposed "real" images of Venus aren't worth anyone's time, including yours. THEY ARE STUPIDITY!!!! That isn't a mere insult, its the truth! The videos you've posted on this thread shouldn't convince a twelve-year-old, David. That first one you posted was a...

He is winning the point. Don't be afraid of logic. If you don't see the point he's making then answer his question and see where it goes. If you do see his point then respond to it because I do see his point and he's got you on this one. There is no contradiction, you're just wrong. There's no...

Incidentally! Tomorrow night - that's Saturday night the 22nd of April - there will be a meteor shower. Since gravity isn't real and we aren't in orbit around the Sun, I have no idea how I know that but, nevertheless, it will be happening tomorrow night. The meteors WILL NOT fall only in a...

Dave, Maybe we can take this discussion down a different course. Let's see what we can find as common ground. I know you're not much into astronomy and related sciences but since the shape of the planet is, at its core, an astronomical issue, I think it might be beneficial to ask you just what...