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  1. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Bull! I don't believe you. Take a camera out and take one photo every 4 hours. It'll take you a total of ten minutes if you DON'T know how to use your camera. You're lying. No one with a working autonomic system is this stupid. I haven't the faintest idea what your motive for this charade is...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Not quite. I agree that the Big Bang Theory is ridiculous but there is at least some modicum of reason that can be found to support it. In other words, it is not unreasonable, when you have good reason to think that the universe is expanding, to run the clock backward and suppose that it all...
  3. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    That's annoying. It worked last night.
  4. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Interestingly, it is because your brain is so used to dealing with perspective (the real sort of perspective, not this fantasy land crap the flat-earthers are talking about) that causes the Sun and Moon to seem bigger when close to the horizon when they actually are just exactly the same size...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Again, there is just no possible way that you are this stupid. You can prove this wrong in one single day - one day, David! Let me guess, you're too busy to go outside the two or three times for five minutes each that it would take for anyone with an IQ above 79 to prove this mindlessness to be...
  6. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You see, Dave, here's the thing. I just do not believe you. You cannot be this stupid! You just flat out cannot be this stupid! What the hell are you actually doing here? Do you have some sort of dementia? Did you fall down and hit your head or have some sort of car accident? That video isn't...
  7. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You are a lunatic. Liar. You said it, I challanged it, you defended it, I proved you wrong THEN you started talking about how you never said it. THE THREAD IS ALL STILL HERE FOR EVERYONE TO READ MORON! I haven't backtracked at all, freak. You said God created math, I challenged it, you...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Why do people always do this? When someone has demonstrated that you were wrong, why try to pretend that you said something other than what is still right there for all of us to read? You said, "... Elohim created math and used it all over the place throughout His creation." to which I...
  9. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    This is all speculation - at best. It is certainly (admittedly) extra-biblical. Further, while it is true that the Hebrews used their alphabet as numbers, this is not at all the same thing as doing mathematics. The Hebrews had no concept at all of the zero in the mathematical sense and as such...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Mathematics is a formal form of language that is used to communicate information about (i.e. to describe) God's creation. God definitely did not create mathematics any more than He created any other form of sound reasoning. Math is an abstraction, not a thing. The history of mathematics is...
  11. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Well, of course that is the exact point. What is observed cannot occur in a flat Earth. You might be able to move the Sun across a flat Earth and make it look right for people in a particular location but then it would look wildly, measurably, noticeably different to others. As I said, the...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You know there's a way for you to directly measure the curvature of the Earth, if you have the time to put into doing it. I've mentioned it before but perhaps when you find yourself with a lot of free time, we can discuss it and figure out the details on how to pull it off.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    None of which comport with reality! It's a very simple experiment to do, Dave. It takes a little time but it isn't hard to do. An even easier thing to do is to go outside on any clear morning for the next several days and weeks. If you go outside before Sunrise, you can see Saturn, Mars and...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    David, you don't need him to prove it. You can prove it yourself in a single day with any camera that will take even a thirty second long exposure, which is pretty much any digital camera in existence. The celestial pole does not move (actually it does but very slightly over hundreds of years -...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Once again, you can stop with the IDIOTIC photographic arguments. It convinces no one other than those who haven't the faintest idea how cameras work. With the right wide angle lens you can make the same horizon look convex, concave or flat all from the exact same location. It's simply a matter...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Want to know why I get angry when you fools associate the flat-earth stupidity with Christianity? This is why... https://youtu.be/QhibN89WJtI WARNING! This video contains cussing and insults. He repeatedly calls the maker of the video he's responding to by the name "Cletus", which happens to...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Please explain. What research are you doing, specifically? Each video has a theme. The first was basically about the map issue, another has to do with the night sky, etc. Have you watched any of the others? There is no need to respond to every point he makes individually. Besides, as I've said...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Can I take this first post of yours to mean that all of the dozens of arguments that were presented in the original thread were all ignored? I'm not at all interested in starting completely over from scratch just doing a repeat of the first thread. This new thread only exists because we were...
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