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  1. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The difference being that a rational argument can be made for the later.
  2. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I wish that were true. I really do. I would love nothing more than to find out that someone Dave doesn't even know has commandeered his account and has been leading us all down a primrose path. Unfortunately, I seriously doubt that this is the case. I think Dave really has bought this nonsense...
  3. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Not when it's a lie, David! Why are you so ready to believe these fools while believing that the whole damn world is lying about something so ridiculous as the shape of the Earth? Besides, microwaves are just light. It's susceptible to the same atmospheric distortions as the light you can see...
  4. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    He will never do it. He isn't interested in being convinced. He isn't interested in proof. He isn't interested in the truth or anything else that resembles rational thought. He has lost his mind.
  5. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Yes, they are. There are several other reason we can know that railroad tracks are parallel, not the least of which is that they wouldn't work if they weren't and trains would be crashing all over the place. We don't have to have first person, visual confirmation of every fact before we decide...
  6. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I'm not watching any more videos, David. What I and others here have presented to you is not merely some good arguments, it is unassailable proof that the Earth cannot be flat. Your unwillingness to directly respond to the simplest of arguments presented as a perfectly clear syllogism with a...
  7. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    They do NOT favor any such thing! Where else would they lead too? Corpuscular rays are no more evidence of a flat earth than are rail road tracks or any other parallel lines that converge into the distance. Did you catch that, Dave? Let me repeat it because its important... Corpuscular rays...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    They are always parallel. This has been responded to over and over again without response from you whatsoever except to repeat the asinine argument. And while there are arguments that contradict it, THERE ARE NO FACTS THAT DO SO! - NONE! You want to know why I get so angry? THIS IS WHY...
  9. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    In what universe is the any sort of a rebuttal? Major Premise: There is no way for the objects in the sky to rotate clockwise in one hemisphere and counter-clockwise in the other if the Earth is flat. Undisputed fact: The objects in the sky do rotate clockwise in one hemisphere and...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Actually, this isn't correct. It is never necessary to debunk every argument made in favor of a particular position in order to disprove that position. All that is necessary is to prove one single point that makes the position rationally impossible. Thus, Stuu makes a good point. All that is...
  11. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    What do flat-earthers say that this is a picture of?
  12. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I never understood why they don't get around this obvious point by simply claiming that the Sun goes beneath the disk and comes back around in the morning. I guess maybe that would conflict with all their other "explanations" but it's not like being irrational ever stopped them before, so... Clete
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Look, I literally cannot comprehend how it is possible for you not to be able to tell that these people are lying. That guy in that video was lying, David. He KNEW that was he was saying was a load of crap! Any amount of investigation into over exposed images will tell you and anyone else who...
  14. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The closer one is to the equator and the closer the date is to an equinox, the more vertical the Sunrise/Sunset will be. BUT ONLY EXACTLY ON THE EQUATOR AND EXACTLY ON THE EQUINOX WILL IT BE EXACTLY VERTICAL! And over exposed sources of light look fatter than those that aren't over exposed...
  15. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Notice also how it sets from right to left rather than left to right.
  16. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Their response to this is to deny the existence of gravity and to suppose that what we feel as gravity is caused by the disc of the Earth moving through space. The problem with that is, of course, that to create one g of force, one has to be accelerating at 9.8 meters per second per second...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Incidentally, proof that light from the Sun arrives at the Earth in virtually parallel lines happened the day before yesterday (March 20th 2018). Most of you may not have noticed but on that day the Sun rose directly East and set directly West of your location. It makes NO DIFFERENCE where...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I agree. That's probably why I keep coming back to it. It's like I'm addicted to it or something. It is a totally facinating subject because it isn't readily obvious to the naked eye that the Earth is round and it's fun to explore what were rather astounding feats of intellect on the part of...
  19. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    There is nothing more to debate. Anyone who still thinks the world is flat is either stupid or is lying. These asinine videos you guys are presenting aren't worth another second of response. They've all be refuted over and over again and none of it moves you guys an inch. So which is it? Are you...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Learn About the Sun and Space-Weather Ages 13+ Easy to understand. Less than 1 Hour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kZ6HSPkf8U&list=PLHSoxioQtwZcJj_9clLz7Bggso7qg2PDj
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