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I vow to never watch another video posted that has anything to do with showing that the Earth is flat. Not one second of one single more video. I will not watch them. I will not discuss them. I am done with flat earth videos - forever - period.

Every single time I play one these videos, it proves to be a waste of time! How in the world can these videos convince anyone of anything other than that Flat Earthers are the stupidest people alive? That video doesn't even show the Sun at all! It shows a boat vanishing from the bottom up into...

Dave, Imagine you are standing directly underneath a basketball hoop (or some other object), which is 10 feet off the ground. The hoop would be at 90° above your horizon. Now imagine that I am looking at the same hoop but it is 33.2° up from my horizon. That puts you at point C and me at...

Measuring the angle of the Sun is not something that can be changed in the way you are suggesting. It's just a simple measurement of the angle of the Sun above the horizon. It changes constantly. At sunrise and sunset the Sun is at 0° above the horizon. At Noon, it's be something closer to 90°...

Dave, So, yesterday I did some math using the angle of the Sun and Moon above the horizon and the distances between my location and the locations on the Earth directly below the Sun and Moon. I'm hoping that it is clear how my location, the subsolar point and the Sun itself create a right...

I used an app on my iPhone called Spyglass. It's basically a fancy compass that I use every day because I need to know the direction the house I'm inspecting is facing and the compass app that comes with the phone is weak. It uses the accelerometers and other orientation gadgets that are built...

It is now 5:30:00 pm Central time (10:30:00 UTC) and the Sun is 33.2° above my horizon and the subsolar point is at 15,9°N 156,2°W The Moon is 4.4° above my horizon and the sunlunar point is at 20,8°N 167,2°E The distance from my house to the subsolar point is 3937.31 miles. The distance from...

Currently it is 4:30:00 pm Central time (9:30:00 UTC) and the Sun is 46.1° above my horizon and the subsolar point is at 16,0°N 141,1°W The Moon is 16.2° above my horizon and the sunlunar point is at 20,8°N 178,4°W The distance from my house to the subsolar point is 3033.21 miles. The...

Okay, well so far the observations are fighting me. First I had to work when I thought I would have the afternoon off and now that I'm off it's overcast with thunderstorms and lightning all over the place. However, I can still use this same app to get the elevation of the Sun above the horizon...

FYI: It turns out that I had to work this afternoon and wasn’t able to make the observations I wanted make starting at noon central time. I’ll be finished in time to make some observations starting at about 4:00pm central time. Clete

Dave, As I said in the my last post, it seems you are confused about what points are creating the right triangle that I'm talking about in my argument. I have something you can do that should clear up your confusion on this. Go to THIS website. It's a site that simply plots the position on...

How is it backwards? You're thinking of the wrong triangle. Read the following very carefully... It isn't backwards. And the argument isn't dependent on which direction the triangle is drawn anyway. Draw it the other way around if you want. The difference is equivalent to one being a sunrise...

It IS NOT relevant to the argument I have made! No one has denied the ability to see all the way to the Sun in both those photos and so how is "how far we can see into the distance across a plane" relevant to the argument? All we did is measure the angle from the horizon to the Sun at near...

That would qualify as a presupposition that I am making a presupposition. That is not a rational argument, David! If I have made a question begging error then tell me what it is. I wrote the post. I made the argument and I know what went into making it. I didn't assume anything other than the...

Dave, I need to clarify something. When I said the distance to the Sun was not relevant, that was slightly incorrect. It is relevant to each individual calculation in my proof that the Earth cannot be flat but it is not relevant in the refutation of the argument because... Based on the data we...

Perspective is not relevant to the argument and it is 1000% total proof that the Earth CANNOT be flat - period. There are two and only two avenues of attack against the argument. You can challenge the veracity of the data we (i.e. people participating in this thread) collected. You can...

Not one single word of this is at all relevant to the argument, David. I am really starting to think that you are in fact stupid. I don't care how far away the FET thinks the Sun is! It can't be two different distances away at the same time, you blithering idiot!

Proof That the Earth Cannot Be Flat The last few days I've been playing around with some math and thought I'd post some of it here to see if it might move some of the flat earthers maybe an inch or two back toward reality... Let's put some of the sunset images we've taken to good use and see...

Irrelevant. Unresponsive. And it would be an argument from silence if it were relevant anyway. We know that He did not but you statement that he would have is conjecture and frankly stupid. You are arguing that the bible is false. THE WORLD IS NOT FLAT! This is not a mere claim. I have...

Nice. Is this you're way of not responding to the argument? Why do you think that it's alright to waste my time? I do not dispute history. It's prehistory that I doubt you know anything about. You simply don't have any idea whether Adam or Abel or Methuselah or a million other prehistoric...