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The following is a link to a video that was produced by Creation Ministies. It is just completely brilliant and fair and gracious and really ought to end the entire debate. Be sure to check out the resources linked too below the video!

It is "being on top" of the Earth that is false. You are swimming in an ocean of air. It wouldn't have to be solid. Why would it have to be solid? No, the atmosphere is part of the Earth and moves with it. It also moves and swirls around relative to the surface of the Earth but it's more...

My arguments are not merely good arguments. I have falsified this idiotic flat Earth stupidity. You're stupid and that's all there is too it.

I so badly want to believe this! Can you at least acknowledge how difficult it is for us to keep this in view? How hard it is to even believe? We've thrown colossally debilitating arguments against the FET (Flat Earth Theory) and you react is if it's just so many spit balls at a battleship. Clete

Saying it doesn't make it so, David. Anyone reading that passage understands what is being said, both then and now. The only difference is that we understand something about how God accomplished what is being described as the Sun standing still. And it did do exactly that, by the way. In every...

Look, debating the M&M experiment and others like it is not the point. The point is that it does NOT prove that the Earth is motionless. It just simply does not do that. It was never intended to do that and it cannot rightly be interpreted as doing that. To do so demonstrates either an agenda...

David has displayed the ability to think clearly many times in the past, not the least of which is his website. I cannot reconcile the David that authored the material on that website with the David on this thread. It feels to me like two different people.

Very frustrating.

Yes, of course we are. We are encased in the atmosphere just as you'd be encased in water if you were submerged in a traveling swimming pool. You think there ought to be some sort of space wind where the Earth would experience some sort of frictional force that would leave the atmosphere...

It terms of one's experience it is. Isn't that your primary criteria - experience? To everyone on the Earth, the Earth is stationary - relative to them. The Sun, on the other hand, is moving across the sky. If you stop the Earth from spinning on it's axis, everyone who has no concept of a...

I stop at whatever point I find a false premise upon which the rest of what is said is based. See the following... It is not missing the point! IT IS THE POINT! Can you not tell the difference between proving that the Earth does not move vs proving that there is no ether? The Michelson...

No, you don't. You repeat claims about our experience that you hear other idiots say on YouTube. The fact is that you wouldn't feel the motion in a car is the ride was sufficiently smoothed out. It is changes in direction and momentum that you feel in a car. The Earth does not have to contend...

Stars never ever fall to Earth! Meteor showers eminate in all directions from a small region in the sky. Whatever that region happens to be is what gives the meteor shower it's name. A point I have made several time before and which you ignored. Don't bother claiming that you didn't ignore it...

You were good up to this point. If you actually believe this and aren't just repeating something you heard on one of those idiotic YouTube videos, then you need to reinvestigate the Michelson Morley experiment because you are flatly wrong about it. It did not prove that the Earth was not moving...

All of this has been addressed over and over again. We know how far away the Sun is. We've known for hundreds of years basically how far away the Moon is and now we know within less than an inch how far away the Moon is. Aristotle said that what is now known to us as Halley's Comet was some...

You just cannot be this stupid. The Moon has a whole hell of a lot further to go, David! The distance the Moon travels in one orbit, ignoring a lot of variables that not relevant to this particular discussion, is just about 1.5 million miles. Take the average orbital speed of the Moon and...

I haven't ignored it. I've directly refuted it. It doesn't circle the Earth faster than the rotation of the Earth. It orbits the Earth at about 1/30th of the rotational speed of the Earth. That is to say that it takes about thirty rations of the Earth for the Moon to complete one orbit around...

Saying it doesn't make it so. Of course it does. It just the differences in apparent speed aren't as big as you want them to be. If this were so, I could not make the predictions that I've made. The software I used to get the information is all based on a globe Moon orbiting a globe Earth...

Actually, this is precisely what we do see.

You're waiting for an argument that explains a phenomenon that does not exist. The reason they are called planets in the first place is precisely because they do not move in unison with the stars. The reason you go outside in the evening during the summer and see the constellations of Scorpio...