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  1. Clete

    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    No is preventing her from doing so, least of all me! Why can't you (and she) just let me present my views?
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    No blood needed

    "Helps" not "help". And I never call people names because I disagree with them but because they have demonstrated character traits that are in keeping with the names I choose to call them. People who are stupid, irrational, heretical or whatever SHOULD be embarrassed by their behavior. Such...
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    If it is your intention not to discuss dispensationalism then why do you keep posting things that are clearly intended to spark debate about exactly that? Let's take what YOU said in YOUR thread point by point... "Revelation has been utterly forgotten..." This is just completely and utterly...
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    No blood needed

    What he's claiming is that Jesus' blood was spilled for all the little small sins that people don't commit intentionally. If you sin on purpose, all that's needed is repentance and you're good! The blood is for all the stuff you can't repent of because you don't do it intentionally. At least...
  5. Clete

    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    Tambora knows her argument is rediculous. That's why she's stopped responding and started simply repeating herself over and over again as though we haven't said anything.
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    No, no, no! Paul's converts were well aware of who Peter, James and John were and they would have understood who their audience was. It would only have been an issue if any of them (or men from them (Gal. 2) came and tried to teach them to follow that other gospel. No, of course, I don't...
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    By you own admission is it a thread about idealism, which I dispute and for good reasons which I have presented. It has nothing to do with me other than I am participating here on TheologyOnline.com which is a debate forum, not your personal blog site. You can present any idea you want to...
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    Never suggested otherwise. Sheesh, you people are thin skinned! That isn't true at all! Who told you this?! The rhetorical power of questions is as old as literature! There's even a word for answering a question with a question. It's called "maieutics". It's associated with the Socratic method...
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    If you CAN'T find it in history? Maybe you could provide a link to your thread.
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    Who is it here who's being hostile again? Sheesh! I've read Galatians so many times that I have literally lost count - along with the whole rest of the bible, by the way. And it isn't merely that Paul went to the Gentiles, it's that he had to tell the Twelve what gospel he was preaching! He...
  11. Clete

    God

    @blackSand You are a lunatic. I do not discuss Christian doctrine with non-christian weirdos. It's not like you were responding to anything I said anyway. Just another in a long line of waste of time buffoons. Good bye.
  12. Clete

    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    Look, if you don't want to talk about it then don't but something is not irrelevant by virtue of the fact that you declare it to be so. It's not like I ever had any delusions of ever convincing you of anything in the first place. So what? If you were half as intellectually honest as you...
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    We were told that! The Apostles in Jerusalem had a meeting with Paul, who was instructed to attend BY REVELATION no less (Gal. 2:2), where they heard the gospel that Paul was preaching and then agreed with Paul that they (Peter, James, John, etc) would minister the Gospel of Circumcision to the...
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    Actually that claim was not made. The claim that was made is that the letters to those churches were to members of the Kingdom (i.e. those who came to Christ during the previous dispensation). Had Jesus wanted to address Paul's converts, He'd have sent the letters through Paul.
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    Answer the question, Tambora.... Do you believe that there was salvation for gentiles apart from Israel? Was Paul wrong when he told the Ephesians.... Ephesians 2:12 that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of...
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    God

    Yes
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    Wow! Two one liners in one post! The substance and depth you bring to the discussion is truly breath taking! So what is your point here exactly? Do you believe that there was salvation for gentiles apart from Israel? Was Paul wrong when he told the Ephesians.... Ephesians 2:12 that at that...
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    God

    Unless the one being punished is both innocent of his own wrong doing and being so punished voluntarily. John 10:17 “Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again. 18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I...
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    God

    B57 thinks you're right! According to him and those who believe the irrational nonsense they believe, they agree with you that God could have done ANYTHING AT ALL but chose, for no reason at all other than that it pleased Him to do so, to have His Son murdered as payment for the sins of the...
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    The Book of Revelation: Mystery Or Profitable?

    You made claims. That's not the same as substantiating anything. I make no such assumption. God's word tells us EXPLICITLY that Peter, James and John agreed that they would minister to Israel while Paul ministered to the Gentiles. One test of whether that is true is to read things written by...
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