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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    Read the context! He is talking about Israel having been cut off and the Gentiles grafted in. He is simply saying that this isn't a permanent situation and that it can easily be undone and so you gentiles don't think of yourselves as superior to Israel because you're not. He didn't go from...
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    Search the scriptures

    I never suggested otherwise. The point wasn't that none exist at all but that they are pretty far and few between and that the fact that you accept the testimony of extra-biblical sources for historical information doesn't put you in a special class. Practically everyone does so.
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    The warning in Romans 11 isn't to individual believers. Paul isn't teaching that his followers can lose their salvation but that God can end the dispensation of grace and turn back again to Israel, which would suck for the Gentiles because then they would once again be "aliens from the...
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    The predictions are what they are, right? And they aren't "too flexible" are they? The prophesies in the bible aren't pre-written history but that doesn't mean they were written on toilet paper, right? I mean, very nearly all of the prophesies in the bible come true to the point that the bible...
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    Well, that doesn't make any sense. Just because there is the potential for a prophesy not to come to pass doesn't mean that the prophesy doesn't exist or that we shouldn't deal with it as though it is very likely to happen. The twists in the plot are not the whole plot. Most of the time, things...
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    What does a potential for future plot twists have to do with what we're talking about? Are you suggesting that Bob thinks that future plot twists can't happen? If so, where does he do that? What, specifically, makes you think that he's done that?
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    Search the scriptures

    Move the goal post much? Just because someone doesn't go to the particular pieces of ancient literature that you like, doesn't mean that they don't ever use any extra-biblical sources to understand how the ancients viewed meanings of biblical terms. Put another way, using any extra-biblical...
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    Don't change the subject.
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    You need to establish this claim.
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    I'm going to reiterate once more than you have not provided any evidence that one syllable of what Bob teaches in The Plot is incorrect and you simply have no reason whatsoever to believe that God has permanently forsaken Israel and you've not refuted a single argument that I've made either...
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    I wish! I'm no genius, I've just been at this for 20+ years. Anyone remember what year it was that Bob first offered The Plot manuscript for sale? I watched his TV show every single night and I called and ordered the book the morning after the first time he mentioned it on the air. I got the...
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    God could use any living descendant of Abraham He decided to use EXCEPT for those who were already members of the Body of Christ. There will be no such thing as a member of the Body of Christ who is saved by grace alone apart from works who will ever be placed under the law and asked to lead the...
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    @Unsettler, I thought of a different take on this discussion that might be more in keeping with what you're getting at. Jeremiah 18 is perhaps the single most important chapter in the entire bible. It is certainly one of the most important. Let's take a look at a couple verses that make this...
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    Is death just another life?

    Luke 23:43 And Jesus said to him, “Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.” Jesus went to Paradise, not Hell! Debate over.
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    Search the scriptures

    I don't know of a single person who doesn't think this.
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    Should We Have Women Pastors Today ?

    In short, there is a difference between recognizing what are best practices vs. turning those best practices into a new set of laws. Is it best that men teach and women remain silent ("silent" in regards to teaching others, not completely mute) in the church? Yes! Is it required as a matter of...
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    Abraham was a great man, no doubt about it, and the promises were made to Abraham but it isn't and never has been about Abraham per se. Abraham is just one character in a huge story that God is telling through the history of mankind. This history starts in the Garden of Eden where there are two...
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    "...have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates? Morons!" All kidding aside, Bob was the genius. I'm no better than average. Bob's material makes anything I write look as if were written in crayon. Well, because there's good reason not to. I'm not at all sure dogmatic is the right term...
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    Has the Church Replaced Israel ?

    YES! I absolutely do believe EXACTLY that! You haven't a clue what you're even talking about. Your every post is hypoctricy on parade. You're too stubborn to see it or care.
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    Has the Church Replaced Israel ?

    Hypocrite! Hypocrite! Hypocrite! Quoting Taylor Swift lyrics. That fits.
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