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  1. Clete

    Should We Have Women Pastors Today ?

    Now, who's being hostile?! No, it isn't "my question". It is, however, the point of the thread! Because you say so? Come on man! Put some effort into it! I'm already in agreement with you and you can't even convince me! Pretend that some leftist, female pastor of a Disciple of Christ church...
  2. Clete

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    That was sarcasm, hypocrite! This is a debate forum. I challenge what you say. The idea is for you to defend what you believe, if you can. I was not being hostile toward you. I was pointing out, MORE THAN ONCE, that you were ARGUING against a point that no one had made! I'll be friendly when...
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    Has the Church Replaced Israel ?

    How would you know what God said without using logic (i.e. reason)? David Koresh quoted the bible all day long and used it to defend his sexual relations with children. I thought you said that what you think has no relevance and that the only thing that matters is what God (i.e. God's word)...
  4. Clete

    Should We Have Women Pastors Today ?

    So, you wouldn't respond at all. Thanks for the stimulating back and forth!
  5. Clete

    Should We Have Women Pastors Today ?

    How would you answer the one who would say that you're making a false dichotomy here; that the bible is chauvinistic and discriminatory?
  6. Clete

    Has the Church Replaced Israel ?

    Good start! This makes no sense whatsoever. There is no such thing as an illogical truth, biblical or otherwise. James disagrees! James 2:20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his...
  7. Clete

    Search the scriptures

    Agree on what? It's some unchristian of me to simply point out that you're arguing against a point that no one has made? Intelligent two way conversation about interesting topics related to God and His word. That's very judgemental of you. I'm offended! I wish it were! It would be far less...
  8. Clete

    Search the scriptures

    Which no one has said anything against. She didn't say "...the bible", she said, "...the KJV". "KJV" being an abbreviation of "King James Version" which is a 400+ year old English language translation of the bible. Get it? It's a lot easier to answer objections when you pay attention to what...
  9. Clete

    Search the scriptures

    Yes, they are, Rodger. Don't be stupid, Okay? Utterly irrelevant. Also, completely irrelevant. Irrelevant! רָצַח rāṣaḥ to murder, slay, kill (Qal) to murder, slay premeditated accidental as avenger slayer (intentional) (participle) (Niphal) to be slain (Piel) to murder, assassinate...
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    Search the scriptures

    The statement was about the KJV, not the bible generally. The King James Bible is very obviously not without error (to continue the use of the double negative). Just two examples of incorrect translations that pop into mind... Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not kill. Deuteronomy 5:17 Thou shalt not...
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    Then why build them? What can they do in one of these Line Cities that they couldn't do in Houston, Texas? Besides, what are they going to pay for them with, their good looks? Money does not grow on trees, even for the government. The more the government tries to de-Christianize the world...
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    Complete, leftist, fantasy land, nonsense. Personally, I'd be very surprised if the Lord tarries another two centuries. We're already so close, it seems to me, to be living in a world such as Noah lived in(Gen. 6:5). Could it be a lot worse than it is? Sure! Will it take 200 years to get...
  13. Clete

    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    No. It seems quite inevitable. "most likely"? Regardless, laws that cannot be applied will not be applied. Further, when God turns back to Israel, believers will not be Jews in the Old Testament sense of the word but rather in the New Testament sense. You could even call them Christians...
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    I may not be understanding your question. The only Kingdom believers that existed where those who believed prior to, and right up until, the cutting off of Israel. Once Israel was cut off then becoming a newly converted Kingdom believer wasn't an option. It was the Body of Christ or nothing at...
  15. Clete

    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    You're so far ahead of me! I envy your beginner's mind. I can so clearly remember what it was like learning all this for the first time. I litterally read the entire Plot in less than 48 hours. Now it takes me forever to read it. I'm one of those that gets sleepy when I read. I don't understand...
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    Yeah, the people who have a big fetish about tithing on the gross are the people who get the money. Imagine that! Also, when God told Israel to tithe, He also told them to use their tithe to pay for their travel expenses, their meals and have a big celebration on their way to give to the...
  17. Clete

    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    And free gifts cost nothing. Basically, meaningless tautology. You're making a distinction without a difference.
  18. Clete

    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    In response to that article you linked too, my response is simple. "Tithing under grace" is an oxymoron.
  19. Clete

    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    That isn't true. If I get 100 of something but I knew going in that it was going to cost me 30 to get it then 70 is the increase and its really easy to calculate 10% of 70 and it isn't 10, it's 7.
  20. Clete

    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    Sounds like law to me! Your pay is based on what you are willing to take in exchange for your time and talent (i.e. your labor), and on what your employer is willing to spend for that labor. Guess what factor is built into those decisions on both sides. TAXES! If you didn't have to pay...
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