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    What Jesus do you believe on ?

    Before Abraham was becoming overjoyed, I am "the light of the world." It is unfortunate that English has difficulty doing this passage justice. Then took they up stones to cast at him He and his father agree. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him." Another way of saying he and his...
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    What Jesus do you believe on ?

    Sorry, but you only think I deny either.
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    What Jesus do you believe on ?

    The supposed "slandering" of God was that he claimed to be a son of God. Again, supposedly by representing God, they wanted the public at the time to believe, that Jesus slandered God by representing him in that way. You fail big time.
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    What Jesus do you believe on ?

    Nor is He with you.
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    What Jesus do you believe on ?

    You believe what the Jewish liars said about him then! And he could do what you can't, because God is not with you.
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    What Jesus do you believe on ?

    What didn't he do?
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    What Jesus do you believe on ?

    Yes, he worked wood construction in those days.
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    What Jesus do you believe on ?

    He was a middle class man with followers; that would be enough to concern his enemies. He feared YHWH more than the Jews who wanted to kill him. He charged him as a king of Jews.
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    What Jesus do you believe on ?

    Yes, by pardoning sins.
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    What Jesus do you believe on ?

    They were already rich and powerful, which is not what the Jews, Israelite law enforcement should be. See above. Because he was a threat to their power. Because he had the sense to be afraid, and they didn't.
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    What Jesus do you believe on ?

    Yes, he was pardoning sins with the help of God. You are getting far too confused. I said supposedly he was slandering or mocking by representing him. Do you know what that means? It means the Jews were surprise, surprise, lying.
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    What Jesus do you believe on ?

    Supposedly he was slandering God by representing him. He had the power to pardon the consequences of certain sins. And he did this with his father.
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    What Jesus do you believe on ?

    There were two lies made by the Judahites. They say he slandered God by misrepresenting him, and they claimed he was doing things only god should do. One was an intentional lie and slander about who slandering God, and the other was a delusional charge of doing what God does. Usually no can do...
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    What Jesus do you believe on ?

    Yes. No, he was doing things that they thought only God should do. But they claimed he slandered [him] too. Understatement of the year. I do know that, and it is more than slightly different.
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    What Jesus do you believe on ?

    This is an obvious Hebraism meaning they followed each other. Here is the slander that he slandered God. ὢν ποιεῖς σεαυτὸν θεόν Also this phrase with ποιεῖς implies he did what God does. It would be wrong for Mankind to do things god does, even if it means creating the world. Literally, you a...
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    What Jesus do you believe on ?

    Money and power, of course. And they accused him of slandering/blaspheming God. Wasn't that special? Why would they not want to crucify him, is a better question.
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    What Jesus do you believe on ?

    They were slandering him. Why should I believe anything that comes out of the mouths of liars?
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    What Jesus do you believe on ?

    Missing is the fact that Salvation is never a word used about the afterlife in the context of the bible.
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    What Jesus do you believe on ?

    I find your statements unconvincing. The lying pharisees pretended Jesus could make i.e do himself God. Apparently you think there is only one God instead of one such God. But the ye are gods statement is the sons of God i.e. angelic beings. And he did the works of his father, because God was...
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