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  1. Lon

    what is the meaning of John 3:3 ?

    I think it fairly straight-forward: It is a need for Nicodemus to be a spiritual being. From what I've garnered talking to Mid Acts, there is a cross-over in the sense that we all need spiritual regeneration. As I understand it, their only caveat here is "born-again" was going to be...
  2. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    'A' conclusion. We all assert we are the logical ones. When we aren't actually logical, there is no appeal to 'logic' that will suffice. "If" any Christians find a problem (and we do), then it is wise to look to your own. If not, it has every earmark you are plugging your ears or so...
  3. Lon

    A little comedy break....

  4. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    🆙 Like that EDF must somehow erase the fact that choice is made? Time Doesn't Exist so 'future' doesn't, if JR's argument is accurate. I believe it is. EDF is but knowledge like any other knowledge. Any 'if' doesn't eradicate the difference. It is this 8th grade easy, I agree! I...
  5. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    I know you have me on ignore, but if I make a cogent point, someone can pick up on it. On this one, Clete says he has no major disagreement with other Open Theists. A debate on Omniscience is a consequential doctrinal difference.
  6. Lon

    Time doesn't exist.

    More: Ephesians 4:15 Grow in Christ Ephesians 5:9 fruit Colossians 1:6,10-11; 2:6,7 2 Timothy 2:3-7 Hebrews 6:7,8 And some more good reminders for all of us: Gal 5:13 For you were called to freedom, brothers and sisters; only do not use your freedom as an opportunity to indulge your...
  7. Lon

    Time doesn't exist.

    Romans 11:11-31 1 Corinthians 3:6-8 1 Corinthians 12 Galatians 5:22, Galatians 6:7 You probably don't have a farm upbringing? There is a lot of farm, vine, fruit, growing analogies and Paul carries a number. In a farm community, the preachers I've sat under would often go to planting...
  8. Lon

    Time doesn't exist.

    As I said, perhaps a bit of AC and DC by analogy. John 15:5 is talking about being 'plugged in.' The Vine/branches analogy always means life is plugged in. Paul uses it often as in 'grafted in.' A distinction: *Unbelievers are not 'plugged in' but in every sense that we are...
  9. Lon

    Time doesn't exist.

    Reread, I think you'll catch your mistake. Does He answer prayer? Wouldn't that be considered to be manipulation? In such instance, if we went back to our alternating current (plugged in AC) and direct current (batteries DC), it'd be akin to getting plugged in, if we went with the hands-off...
  10. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    :sigh: You said it, I accessed it. You don't have to jump to an appeal to mystery every time. Clete, I sincerely believe you've emoted in these last few conversations. Something going on in your life you are blaming me for? I believe you were irritated before you got here, some of this...
  11. Lon

    Time doesn't exist.

    The link says everything would fly apart, like an atomic bomb went off, if God stopped sustaining the universe by His power. Just the opposite of "not literal" -> Literal. Nehemiah: 9:6 "...and thou preservest them (all God has made) all..." It is ongoing 'literally.' Jeremiah...
  12. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Not the assertion. Let's take your disappointment and saying so. I have it on record that you said it 'now' as in 'the future' of when you said it. Does my definite knowledge do anything to your choice? No, we both agree. People 'think' that the future makes a difference and your...
  13. Lon

    Time doesn't exist.

    Nehemiah 9:6 Jeremiah 51:15,16 and see: https://answersingenesis.org/who-is-god/god-is-good/why-does-the-universe-continue-to-exist/
  14. Lon

    Our Moral God

    Thank you for your patience and long-suffering.
  15. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Disagreement notwithstanding? I disagree any way. Did you mean the logical conclusion (just thinking that accentuating the has the greater weight of what you are aiming for)? I'll leave response here and also tie back into my conversation with Clete on two premises: 1) That most are jumping...
  16. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    On the same page on this. See the post just above #725 for discussion
  17. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    All of the following is a discussion about EDF: What it does, and what it doesn't do with logical proofs and propositions: I was referencing a statement you'd made earlier. You'd said God is often above our paygrade as limited, created humans (my take). I was simply in agreement with you...
  18. Lon

    Our Moral God

    Seems pretty straight forward but there is no need to revisit a 'mormon' connection. Honestly, it wasn't intended to be a huge discussion point. I'm just puzzled by the fact that so many Open Theist theologians are in ongoing conversations specifically because it looks like 'commonalities.'...
  19. Lon

    Our Moral God

    Sustains Literally what 'consist, make to stand' means. I don't care to argue over the difference. Don't care frankly. You can be wrong or supposedly me. Not important if you grasp the meaning unless you have a pertinent point and I suspect nothing. Don't monkey see/monkey do. Such is often...
  20. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    I'll plead a bit on your former post that we cannot, as you rightly said, grasp all of who God is for one. Qualifying (2) is different between Open paradigms and the majority of the rest of Christendom. For this, because I and most of Christians believe the Omnis are very much beyond "Adam...
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