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Will answer this for thread, whether it carries conversation or not: Do a bit of a word study. One day the Earth will be destroyed and someone may argue against scripture when they need not. This is talking about men being able to do anything to interfere with God. Forcing it. Do a word...

It 'looks' like you've checked out on this conversation and are no longer trying to even follow the arguments. To date I've been labelled a lot of these, but not an Open Theist at this venture. Next, I am not emotional on this. You can try to keep going with that tack but I like...

This will be less than half of the previous and I cut it off before half is over. :nono: ONLY double-pred Calvinists believe this. You have to be exact on this else it will quickly become a strawman. This one is a bit harder to explain because it isn't just Double-pred. Rather, the...

Agree with all but 2 points so 1) need to say here I read it exactly as Clete does, not into it as other's have. A cursory reading would have declaring end from the beginning about everything. In context, it is about salvation for Israel, that God declared He would do it and will. If I...

I think he was reading one of your arguments on determinism and assumed it was an Open paradigm. The surreal was that you were making a comment about what you understood EDF to mean. IOW, he should be an Open Theist! 0.o The miracle thread was also surreal. I believe you called it right...

Overtly psychoanalytical (and I don't think the guy is a psychologist at that). It is also a vid I'd have to turn away with minecraft or whatever distracting game he had going on in the foreground. Using the voice-over recognition software was a good choice, probably made what I'd have had...

What is the question/argument again, anybody? Gary, Not seeing the 'why' of this being true. How come? Not sure what the argument is on this one either. JudgeRightly, I get a LOT of accusations of being unable to follow (random) but I suspect it isn't just me O.o! (It is me, I'm just...

I think what he is saying is if 'you' believe determinism means 'no choice' then the Son, known to be slain from creation, would have no choice and therefore: 'murder.' And because Open Theists are the one who 'think this' about determinism' you'd have to believe the rest of us believe the...

What is in keeping with scriptures? You are making an assertion: "If it was known, it is determined!" You haven't shown the smoking gun, just evidence atf. If so, it doesn't matter. Let me entertain your 'no choice' scenario for a moment: Not only did He say 'vanilla' but made me...

It is possible, but I read it as Jesus explaining what all Pharisees and other Jewish teachers should have picked up from Isaiah 53, for instance. That tends to be how I read it because Jesus says: Realize I'm either not Mid Acts, or not versed well enough on the coincidence. For me, if...

Agree, I know of no other either. I think so. Here is a question for MidActs: Was 'born again' future for Nicodemus? From Theology class, the Holy Spirit came 'upon' men and women prior to the Lord Jesus Christ's DBR. If not, then I'd have to agree that 'born again' isn't the same as...

Uhhhggg. What in the world does "Planet Fitness" and 'kids' have in common? :doh: (some of these could obviously go in "Not Mad Enough" also. <Grief>

Hello Tambora! 1Co 2:9 But as it is written, "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard," nor has it entered into the heart of man, "the things which God has prepared for those who love Him." 1Co 2:10 But God has revealed them to us by His Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, yea, the deep...

Part of the issue: What is a miracle? -"Biblically speaking miracles involve God doing something uncommon and usually awe-inspiring in order to reveal himself to mankind." Comments in thread will be over the definition difference and reasons for sharing.

Does knowledge of any kind, eliminate your free choice? Affect it? Some say yes, others no. Some assert as I do, knowledge has nothing to do with choices, and don't affect them and suggests as I do, a question fallacy. One tackles even determinism as removing choice and does a nice job of...

Absolutely. We'd not be very good parents without ability to change behavior. ▲This is the problematic conflation. It doesn't matter today, for the rest of my life, if I am going to choose vanilla, that you know it infallibly. Knowledge itself doesn't do anything. If you never tell me...

Oh! That's just wrong! (should have had that fire inside a tin can for better heat to cook the lion over...)

Lawsuit waiting to happen and the principle should be fired and never allowed in a government office again, maybe deported.

From a satire magazine :Z AND Riley is up against Lia(m)-Wil-lia-m- for 'woman' of the year in sports!

Coffee spilled on my keyboard... letters missing, a few grammatical errors as well. If both tax, please forgive and overlook. I've seen them :Z