Original Sin, and its Essence

Nick M

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Only sinners die.
Innocents do not die as innocents do not have the necessary mens rea to be guilty for sin and under its sway.
Actually no.

14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.

18 Therefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life.
 

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My article aimed to spark discussion about a compelling pattern: the concept of original sin appears across diverse cultures, from ancient Greece and Mesopotamia to Aboriginal Australia. This widespread theme suggests a universal human recognition of a primordial rupture between divine and human realms—one that explains our current state of suffering and mortality. The persistence of this narrative across civilizations points to a fundamental truth about human nature: our deep-seated sense of moral imperfection and yearning for redemption.


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Actually no.

14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.

18 Therefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life.
I think you made a great point.

I will add: Yes, Jesus through his death and resurrection has over come sin and death. He now provides the WAY of our following him. So one day I asked: If Jesus has overcome sin and death then why are we human's still suffering? He gave me an answer.

He said, "I waited on you!"
"What???," I said.
Then he opened scripture for me. There is a reason we still suffer. A reason we still experience death. A reason we still commit sins.

When God created us he had a purpose. He wanted to grow a family that would love and follow him of our own free will. He had a plan called salvation all ready for our sake if we failed.
  • Birth was made a process to occur over time
  • Death was a process to occur over time
Because both were made a process this allowed for male and female to fulfill God's first command for mankind. Produce and multiply a family.

Yes, Jesus has overcome sin and death by his miracle on the cross and he has given us a gift of his Holy Spirit. Him in us followers is the way we follow him into an eternal kingdom. But the processes still go on ... in fact we are told this:

I Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.

We still suffer from the original sin of our parents, Adam/Woman, because God has waited on us to be born. If he had ended birthing and dying and brought in the kingdom, when Jesus arose from the dead, then you and I would have never been born having a chance to partake of his perfect eternal kingdom.

In this world we will have troubles ... and still suffer from the consequences of the original sin ... actually we suffer due to the curse upon the ground which was done by God FOR OUR SAKE. Through that curse and our waiting we will one day shed this earthly body and begiven a new one where we as individuals will live in a perfect world in a relationship with our Lord and Father.

I Corinthians 15:54-55 When the perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortal puts on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written: "Death is swallowed up in victory." "O death where is your victory? O death, where is your sting?"

Ephesians 1:7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace.!

Read I Tim. 6:14-16 to see who introduces the saints to the LORD Father!!! What an exciting day that will be.
 
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