So guys, what's it like living in a boring echo chamber nowadays?

[Idolater]

If you're opposed to welfare then by association - in any realistic sense - you're tolerating a rise in poverty and homelessness among other things.

No. There's an obesity problem among the poorest Americans rn. We're well beyond the risk of increasing poverty /impoverishment and homelessness, we don't know how far beyond rn, but we are well beyond that risk. As such welfare is more of the proverbial hammock rather than a safety net. So we're OK being against welfare and abortion, we can do that with a clear conscience.

For plenty, it's the only available lifeline to try and make ends meet.

Obesity epidemic does not equal barely making ends meet.

Not sure where you're getting the notion that the poor are overfed exactly, cite? It's all well and good declaring that Christians are supposed to feed the hungry and in itself is commendable, but that's not going to reach many who need it.

Point is, where are the hungry, in a country of fatties? They don't exist. I'm not saying stop feeding the poor. I'm saying they have quite enough food, more than they need, obv, so it's OK to morally favor the reducing of our welfarism.

 

[Arthur Brain]

You mean like the people in the video I posted that you get your "news" from?

Well of course not. I know you're not the brightest crayon in the box Nick but c;mon...

 

[Arthur Brain]

You besmirch yourself with such words. I spelled out the part explicitly where she was unwilling to discuss restrictions on abortions for convenience until I agreed that the state must support the baby throughout. Abortion means the killing of a baby. Please point out where I went wrong in the interpretation, if you think I did, but until then, merely rereading her post and reasserting your conclusion does not address my contention.

I do no such thing. You went wrong in your inference of something that simply wasn't there and worse, you've doubled down on it since. In no way, shape or form was Anna arguing as you suggest and if you even had a passing familiarity with her views you'd know she never has or would. The fault is yours and Anna can address you if and when she has the time or sees fit.

 

[Arthur Brain]

No. There's an obesity problem among the poorest Americans rn. We're well beyond the risk of increasing poverty /impoverishment and homelessness, we don't know how far beyond rn, but we are well beyond that risk. As such welfare is more of the proverbial hammock rather than a safety net. So we're OK being against welfare and abortion, we can do that with a clear conscience.



Obesity epidemic does not equal barely making ends meet.



Point is, where are the hungry, in a country of fatties? They don't exist. I'm not saying stop feeding the poor. I'm saying they have quite enough food, more than they need, obv, so it's OK to morally favor the reducing of our welfarism.

There's an obesity problem in America full stop and I'm waiting for a cite that supports it being prevalent among the poor. Poor people and the homeless in any country do not have 'quite enough food' for reasons that should be blatantly obvious.

 

[Derf]

I do no such thing. You went wrong in your inference of something that simply wasn't there and worse, you've doubled down on it since. In no way, shape or form was Anna arguing as you suggest and if you even had a passing familiarity with her views you'd know she never has or would. The fault is yours and Anna can address you if and when she has the time or sees fit.

I wasn't reading her views, but her post. You apparently think her post is not representative of her views, which is fine, and hopefully true, but she's intelligent enough to tell me that--she doesn't need you to interpret her views. So why do you do it? You must think she's an imbecile, like you accuse so many of being.

 

[Arthur Brain]

I wasn't reading her views, but her post. You apparently think her post is not representative of her views, which is fine, and hopefully true, but she's intelligent enough to tell me that--she doesn't need you to interpret her views. So why do you do it? You must think she's an imbecile, like you accuse so many of being.

Go back to post 52, 53 and 54 Derf. You quoted me to begin with and claimed anna was arguing something she wasn't and that I, by taking her side also was by association. Flat out wrong. I've already told you that anna can address this directly to you but you decided to keep flogging a dead hose instead. Of course anna doesn't need me to interpret her views and she's far, far from an imbecile.

 

[Idolater]

There's an obesity problem in America full stop and I'm waiting for a cite that supports it being prevalent among the poor. Poor people and the homeless in any country do not have 'quite enough food' for reasons that should be blatantly obvious.

Obesity and poverty don’t always go together

Obesity in the U.S. varies considerably by gender, race, ethnicity, income and educational level, but not necessarily how you might expect.

www.pewresearch.org

 

[JudgeRightly]

There's an obesity problem in America full stop and I'm waiting for a cite that supports it being prevalent among the poor. Poor people and the homeless in any country do not have 'quite enough food' for reasons that should be blatantly obvious.

When your nation's poorest are among the wealthiest people in the world, obesity is very possible for the poor, because "poor" is a relative term. These links show that they're wealthier than most of the world:

The Poorest 20% of Americans Are Richer on Average Than Most European Nations

The US is so economically exceptional that the poorest 20 percent of Americans are richer than many of the world’s most affluent nations.

fee.org

https://www.independent.org/tir/2022-summer/where-do-the-poorest-americans-stand-in-the-income-distribution-among-all-people-ever-born/

https://apps.urban.org/features/wealth-inequality-charts/

1. Trends in income and wealth inequality

Barely 10 years past the end of the Great Recession in 2009, the U.S. economy is doing well on several fronts. The labor market is on a job-creating

www.pewresearch.org

And these links show that obesity is a problem for them:

Poverty and Obesity in the U.S - PMC

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Obesity and poverty: Link, statistics and more

Studies suggest obesity is linked to poverty. A potential factor is the greater affordability of less nutritional and higher calorie foods. Learn more.

www.medicalnewstoday.com

Obesity and poverty don’t always go together

Obesity in the U.S. varies considerably by gender, race, ethnicity, income and educational level, but not necessarily how you might expect.

www.pewresearch.org

The Link Between Childhood Obesity and Poverty | Feed the Children

Discover the hidden link between childhood obesity and poverty in affluent countries. Explore the surprising factors that contribute to this complex issue, from food deserts to lack of safe play spaces, and learn how you can be part of the solution for a healthier, happier future for all families.

www.feedthechildren.org