The old man cannot be rehabilitated and thus we are to show him no mercy. In the End he goes into the lake of fire prepared for the devil and his angels; but it really is not until that time that we really understand who he/she/it is, (or was). What is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of Elohim. If you are Hebrew minded your old man is Hebrew minded; if you are Greek minded your old man is Greek minded, if you are English speaking your old man is English speaking; soul for soul, eye for eye, hand for hand, foot for foot: he/she knows you like yourself, and his/her desire is unto you, for he/she/it wants to spend forever with you, yes, forever and forever. :crackup:
Come to think of it that is the same issue Dialm and the Calvinites are all hung up and strung up on: for the carnal man refuses to see that the Creator and Potter has the right to make two vessels out of the selfsame lump of clay. Every man has his own body-vessel, (which is no more our own when we come to Messiah) which is likened to an earthen vessel, and which holds inside the treasure which is the man, (the man is not his body). As it is written, Yakob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with Elohim? Say no such thing! Therefore Elohim does not condemn one person of a man "just because", or justify another "just because", for that would neither be upright nor righteous. It is a hideous proposal of the Calvinites who know not Elohim and refuse to cut off the old man Esau nature from themselves, for these things are spirit and of a spiritual nature. For Elohim says to Moshe, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that wills, nor of him that runs, but of Elohim that shows mercy. For the scripture says toward Pharaoh: Even for this same purpose have I raised you up, that I might show My power through you, and that My name might be declared throughout all the earth. And who is Pharaoh but the old man of Moshe? And who is Esau but the old man twin goat of Yakob? And who is Yishmael to Yitschak? And who is Shaul to David? And so on and so on. For every man is one individual selfsame lump of clay from which two vessels of spirit are formed by the Potter. Therefore He has mercy on whom He will have mercy, and whom He wills He hardens, and the hardened one is always the firstborn vessel of the spirit of pride which goes into destruction at the time appointed of the Father, (each in his or her own appointed times and no one knows the day or the hour). And if one should say, Why does He yet find fault? For who has resisted His will? (as the Calvinites likewise say). Nay but, O man, who are you to reply against Elohim? Shall the thing formed say to Him that formed it, Why have you made me twain? Has not the Potter the power over the clay, out of the selfsame lump, to make one vessel of spirit unto honor, and another unto dishonor? What if Elohim, willing to show His wrath, and to make His power known, endured with much long-suffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction even so that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had before prepared unto glory, even us, the new man in Messiah Yeshua, whom Elohim has called out of Babylon of the flesh minded carnal old man kingdom? And this not only of the Yhudim but also of the nations!
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