Y’shu or Jesus

steko

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You can call upon Zeus, and I will call upon Yahshua.


Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Yeshua is the Hebrew word which is translated 'salvation' in the OT 87 times.

There is no Yashua in Hebrew. Made up in the 1930s.


Mat 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Yeshua/salvation: for he shall save his people from their sins.


There were other people called Yeshua in Scripture:

Ezr 2:2 Which came with Zerubbabel: Jeshua, Nehemiah, Seraiah, Reelaiah, Mordecai, Bilshan, Mispar, Bigvai, Rehum, Baanah. The number of the men of the people of Israel:
 

CherubRam

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Yeshua is the Hebrew word which is translated 'salvation' in the OT 87 times.

There is no Yashua in Hebrew. Made up in the 1930s.


Mat 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Yeshua/salvation: for he shall save his people from their sins.


There were other people called Yeshua in Scripture:

Ezr 2:2 Which came with Zerubbabel: Jeshua, Nehemiah, Seraiah, Reelaiah, Mordecai, Bilshan, Mispar, Bigvai, Rehum, Baanah. The number of the men of the people of Israel:

Theophoric names with "Yeho" prefixes have corresponding forms where the letters "eh"' have been omitted. There is a theory by Christian Ginsburg that this is due to Hebrew scribes omitting the "h", changing Jeho (יְהוֹ) into Jo (יוֹ), to make the start of "Yeho-" names not sound like an attempt to pronounce the Divine Name. With the Tetragrammaton, some theophoric names begin with the first two consonants, other names take only the first and the third letters from the Tetragrammaton and build them into the syllable "yo" at the beginning of a name (Yoab, Yoram, Yoyakim, Yoel, Yonathan).
 

CherubRam

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Yahwah
A note on the words hawah and hayah.
Quote from pages 217 and 218 of the Brown-Driver-Briggs. Ref # 3068-69, on page 217.


Brown-Driver-Briggs on page 218 states that, Quote: "Many recent scholars explain יהוה‎ as Hiph. of הוה equals היה "

הוה hawah. HWH is hawah.
היה hayah. HYH is hayah.
Note that the vowels are " a."
יהוה Yahwah


The vowels are "a" in the Brown-Driver-Briggs, also in the NIV Exhaustive Concordance, and the Strong's Exhaustive Concordances.
 

CherubRam

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[FONT=&quot]Baptism in Matthew 28:19.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]In regards to baptism in Matthew 28:19.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

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[FONT=&quot]As for what the Congregation believed, read this: [/FONT][FONT=&quot]

"The Demonstratio Evangelica" by Eusebius:
Eusebius of Caesarea. 265 ? AD.– 337 ? AD.


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[FONT=&quot]Eusebius was the Church historian and Bishop of Caesarea. On page 152 Eusebius quotes the early book of Matthew that he had in his library in Caesarea. Eusebius informs us of Yahshua’s actual words to his disciples in the original text of Matthew 28:19.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

Quote: "With one word and voice He said to His disciples: "Go, and make disciples of all nations in My Name, teaching them to observe all...

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[FONT=&quot]And again Eusebius for example, in Book III of his History, Chapter 5, Section 2, which is about the Jewish persecution of early Christians, we read:[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

"But the rest of the disciples, who had been incessantly plotted against with a view to their destruction, and had been driven out of the land of Judea, went to all nations to preach the good news, relying upon the power of Christ, who had said to them, "Go ye and make disciples of all the nations in my name."


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[FONT=&quot]And again, in his Oration in Praise of Emperor Constantine, Chapter 16, Section 8, we read:[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

"What king or prince in any age of the world, what philosopher, legislator or prophet, in civilized or barbarous lands, has attained so great a height of excellence, I say not after death, but while living still, and full of mighty power, as to fill the ears and tongues of all mankind with the praises of his name?
Surely none save our only Savior has done this, when, after his victory over death, he spoke these words to his followers, and fulfilled it by that event, saying to them, "Go ye and make disciples of all nations in my name."

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[FONT=&quot]The scripture Eusebius is quoting is not what we read today. We do find that his quotes do agree with other scriptures.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Yahshua Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Acts 8:16
(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Yahshua.)

Acts 10:48
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Acts 19:4
Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Yahshua.

Acts 19:5
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Yahshua.

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Romans 6:3
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Yahshua Christ were baptized into his death?

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. [/FONT]
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CherubRam

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[FONT=&quot]Yah.[/FONT]
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[h=4][FONT=&quot]Exodus 23:21.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since [/FONT][FONT=&quot]my Name is in him.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][/h] [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Yah is the short form of God’s personal name Yahwah, used about fifty time in the Old Testament.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Yah-wah / Yah-shua[/FONT]
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[h=4][FONT=&quot]Psalm 68:4.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Sing to Elohiym, sing praise to His name, extol Him who rides on the clouds [/FONT][FONT=&quot]His name is Yah [/FONT][FONT=&quot]and rejoice before Him. [/FONT][/h] [h=4][FONT=&quot]John 5:43.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]I have come in [/FONT][FONT=&quot]my Father's name[/FONT][FONT=&quot], and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him. [/FONT][/h] [FONT=&quot]The best evidence is that his proper name was "y'shua". But Galileans always dropped their 'ayins', hence "y'shu" for which in the talmud many Jewish people use as an acronym meaning “may his name be blotted out”.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The name Jesus is an unknown word that was invented. In the NIV Exhaustive Concordance you will find the name Joshua along with the name Jesus. In English the name Joshua is pronounced Jah/ shoo/ ah. We do know as a matter of fact that “Jah” is for “Yah” in Hebrew and English.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The assignment of the vowels in Hebrew are arbitrary, in order to hide his real name. This is also true of God’s own personal name which is Yahwah. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The Orthodox Jews believe that it is their duty to conceal God’s personal name from the public. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]So if you wish to use the Messiah’s real name in English that would be “Yahshua.” [/FONT]
[h=4][FONT=&quot]Numbers 13:16[/FONT][FONT=&quot] (Moses gave Hoshea son of Nun the name Joshua.)[/FONT][/h] [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Why did Moses give Hosea the name Joshua? (Yahshua) [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]I come in the name of Yahwah.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]Psalm 118:26[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Blessed is he who comes in the name of (the Lord / Yahwah.) From the house of (the Lord / Yahwah) we bless you. [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]Matthew 23:39[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of (the Lord / Yahwah.)’”[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]Luke 13:35[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Look, your house is left to you desolate. I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of (the Lord / Yahwah.)’”[/FONT]
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CherubRam

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Scriptures of importance about God’s name.


Jeremiah 23:27
They think the dreams they tell one another will make my people forget my name, just as their ancestors forgot my name through Baal worship.

Psalm 118:26
Blessed is he [Yahshua] who comes in the name of [the LORD / Yahwah.] From the house of [the LORD / Yahwah] we bless you.

Psalm 144:15
Blessed are the people of whom this is true; blessed are the people whose God is [the LORD / Yahwah.]

Psalm 14:4
Will evildoers never learn— those who devour my people as men eat bread and who do not call on Yahwah ?

Psalm 53:4
Will the evildoers never learn— those who devour my people like men eating bread and who do not call on Elohiym?

Psalm 79:6
Pour out your wrath on the nations that do not acknowledge you, on the kingdoms that do not call on your name;

Jeremiah 10:25
Pour out your wrath on the nations that do not acknowledge you, on the peoples who do not call on your name. For they have devoured Jacob; they have devoured him completely and destroyed his homeland.

What is the name of his son
Proverbs 30:4
Who has gone up to heaven and come down? Whose hands have gathered up the wind? Who has wrapped up the waters in a cloak? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is his name, and what is the name of his son? Surely you know!

Genesis 48:16
the Angel who has delivered me from all harm —may he bless these boys. May they be called by my name and the names of my fathers, Abraham and Isaac, and may they increase greatly on the earth.”

Exodus 3:15
God also said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, ‘[The LORD / Yahwah], the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.’ “This is my name forever, the name you shall call me from generation to generation.

Exodus 6:3
I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob as God Almighty, but by my name [the LORD / Yahwah] I did not make myself fully known to them.

Exodus 9:16
But I have raised you up for this very purpose, that I might show you my power and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.

Exodus 20:24
“‘Make an altar of earth for me and sacrifice on it your burnt offerings and fellowship offerings, your sheep and goats and your cattle. Wherever I cause my name to be honored, I will come to you and bless you.

Exodus 23:21
Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him.

Exodus 33:19
And [the LORD / Yahwah] said, “I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim my name, [the LORD / Yahwah], in your presence. I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

Leviticus 19:12
“‘Do not swear falsely by my name and so profane the name of your God. I am [the LORD / Yahwah].

Numbers 6:27
“So they will put my name on the Israelites, and I will bless them.”

Deuteronomy 18:19
I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name.

Deuteronomy 18:20
But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”

1 Samuel 24:21
Now swear to me by [the LORD / Yahwah] that you will not kill off my descendants or wipe out my name from my father’s family.”

1 Kings 5:5
I intend, therefore, to build a temple for the Name of [the LORD / Yahwah] my God, as [the LORD / Yahwah] told my father David, when he said, ‘Your son whom I will put on the throne in your place will build the temple for my Name.’

1 Kings 8:18
But [the LORD / Yahwah] said to my father David, ‘You did well to have it in your heart to build a temple for my Name.

2 Kings 21:4
He built altars in the temple of [the LORD / Yahwah], of which [the LORD / Yahwah] had said, “In Jerusalem I will put my Name.”

2 Kings 21:7
He took the carved Asherah pole he had made and put it in the temple, of which [the LORD / Yahwah] had said to David and to his son Solomon, “In this temple and in Jerusalem, which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel, I will put my Name forever.

2 Chronicles 6:5
‘Since the day I brought my people out of Egypt, I have not chosen a city in any tribe of Israel to have a temple built so that my Name might be there, nor have I chosen anyone to be ruler over my people Israel.

2 Chronicles 6:6
But now I have chosen Jerusalem for my Name to be there, and I have chosen David to rule my people Israel.’

2 Chronicles 6:8
But [the LORD / yahwah] said to my father David, ‘You did well to have it in your heart to build a temple for my Name.

2 Chronicles 6:9
Nevertheless, you are not the one to build the temple, but your son, your own flesh and blood—he is the one who will build the temple for my Name.’

2 Chronicles 7:14
if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

2 Chronicles 7:16
I have chosen and consecrated this temple so that my Name may be there forever. My eyes and my heart will always be there.

2 Chronicles 7:20
then I will uproot Israel from my land, which I have given them, and will reject this temple I have consecrated for my Name. I will make it a byword and an object of ridicule among all peoples.

2 Chronicles 33:4
He built altars in the temple of [the LORD / Yahwah], of which [the LORD / Yahwah] had said, “My Name will remain in Jerusalem forever.”

2 Chronicles 33:7
He took the image he had made and put it in God’s temple, of which God had said to David and to his son Solomon, “In this temple and in Jerusalem, which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel, I will put my Name forever.

Nehemiah 1:9
but if you return to me and obey my commands, then even if your exiled people are at the farthest horizon, I will gather them from there and bring them to the place I have chosen as a dwelling for my Name.’

Psalm 89:24
My faithful love will be with him, and through my name his horn will be exalted.

Psalm 91:14
“Because he loves me,” says [the LORD / Yahwah], “I will rescue him; I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name.

Psalm 102:8
All day long my enemies taunt me; those who rail against me use my name as a curse.

Isaiah 29:23
When they see among them their children, the work of my hands, they will keep my name holy; they will acknowledge the holiness of the Holy One of Jacob, and will stand in awe of the God of Israel.

Isaiah 41:25
“I have stirred up one from the north, and he comes— one from the rising sun who calls on my name. He treads on rulers as if they were mortar, as if he were a potter treading the clay.

Isaiah 42:8
“I am [the LORD / Yahwah]; that is my name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols.

Isaiah 43:7
everyone who is called by my name, whom I created for my glory, whom I formed and made.”

Isaiah 49:1
[ The Servant of the LORD ] Listen to me, you islands; hear this, you distant nations: Before I was born [the LORD / Yahwah] called me; from my mother’s womb he has spoken my name.

Isaiah 52:5
“And now what do I have here?” declares [the LORD / Yahwah]. “For my people have been taken away for nothing, and those who rule them mock,” declares [the LORD / Yahwah]. “And all day long my name is constantly blasphemed.

Isaiah 52:6
Therefore my people will know my name; therefore in that day they will know that it is I who foretold it. Yes, it is I.”

Isaiah 65:1
[ Judgment and Salvation ] “I revealed myself to those who did not ask for me; I was found by those who did not seek me. To a nation that did not call on my name, I said, ‘Here am I, here am I.’

Isaiah 66:5
Hear the word of [the LORD / Yahwah], you who tremble at his word: “Your own people who hate you, and exclude you because of my name, have said, ‘Let [the LORD / Yahwah] be glorified, that we may see your joy!’ Yet they will be put to shame.

Jeremiah 7:10
and then come and stand before me in this house, which bears my Name, and say, “We are safe”—safe to do all these detestable things?

Jeremiah 7:11
Has this house, which bears my Name, become a den of robbers to you? But I have been watching! declares [the LORD / Yahwah].

Jeremiah 7:12
“‘Go now to the place in Shiloh where I first made a dwelling for my Name, and see what I did to it because of the wickedness of my people Israel.

Jeremiah 7:14
Therefore, what I did to Shiloh I will now do to the house that bears my Name, the temple you trust in, the place I gave to you and your ancestors.

Jeremiah 7:30
[ The Valley of Slaughter ] “‘The people of Judah have done evil in my eyes, declares [the LORD / Yahwah]. They have set up their detestable idols in the house that bears my Name and have defiled it.

Jeremiah 12:16
And if they learn well the ways of my people and swear by my name, saying, ‘As surely as [the LORD / Yahwah] lives’—even as they once taught my people to swear by Baal—then they will be established among my people.

Jeremiah 14:14
Then [the LORD / Yahwah] said to me, “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds.

Jeremiah 14:15
Therefore this is what [the LORD / Yahwah] says about the prophets who are prophesying in my name: I did not send them, yet they are saying, ‘No sword or famine will touch this land.’ Those same prophets will perish by sword and famine.

Jeremiah 16:21
“Therefore I will teach them— this time I will teach them my power and might. Then they will know that my name is [the LORD / Yahwah].

Jeremiah 23:25
“I have heard what the prophets say who prophesy lies in my name. They say, ‘I had a dream! I had a dream!’

Jeremiah 23:27
They think the dreams they tell one another will make my people forget my name, just as their ancestors forgot my name through Baal worship.

Jeremiah 25:29
See, I am beginning to bring disaster on the city that bears my Name, and will you indeed go unpunished? You will not go unpunished, for I am calling down a sword on all who live on the earth, declares [the LORD / Yahwah] Almighty.’

Jeremiah 27:15
‘I have not sent them,’ declares [the LORD / Yahwah]. ‘They are prophesying lies in my name. Therefore, I will banish you and you will perish, both you and the prophets who prophesy to you.’”

Jeremiah 29:9
They are prophesying lies to you in my name. I have not sent them,” declares [the LORD / Yahwah].

Jeremiah 29:21
This is what [the LORD / Yahwah] Almighty, the God of Israel, says about Ahab son of Kolaiah and Zedekiah son of Maaseiah, who are prophesying lies to you in my name: “I will deliver them into the hands of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, and he will put them to death before your very eyes.

Jeremiah 29:23
For they have done outrageous things in Israel; they have committed adultery with their neighbors’ wives, and in my name they have uttered lies—which I did not authorize. I know it and am a witness to it,” declares [the LORD / yahwah].

Jeremiah 32:34
They set up their vile images in the house that bears my Name and defiled it.

Jeremiah 34:15
Recently you repented and did what is right in my sight: Each of you proclaimed freedom to your own people. You even made a covenant before me in the house that bears my Name.

Jeremiah 34:16
But now you have turned around and profaned my name; each of you has taken back the male and female slaves you had set free to go where they wished. You have forced them to become your slaves again.

Jeremiah 44:26
But hear the word of [the LORD / Yahwah], all you Jews living in Egypt: ‘I swear by my great name,’ says [the LORD / Yahwah], ‘that no one from Judah living anywhere in Egypt will ever again invoke my name or swear, “As surely as the Sovereign LORD lives.”

Ezekiel 20:9
But for the sake of my name, I brought them out of Egypt. I did it to keep my name from being profaned in the eyes of the nations among whom they lived and in whose sight I had revealed myself to the Israelites.

Ezekiel 20:14
But for the sake of my name I did what would keep it from being profaned in the eyes of the nations in whose sight I had brought them out.

Ezekiel 20:22
But I withheld my hand, and for the sake of my name I did what would keep it from being profaned in the eyes of the nations in whose sight I had brought them out.

Ezekiel 20:44
You will know that I am [the LORD / Yahwah], when I deal with you for my name’s sake and not according to your evil ways and your corrupt practices, you people of Israel, declares the Sovereign LORD.’”

Amos 9:12
so that they may possess the remnant of Edom and all the nations that bear my name, ” declares [the LORD / Yahwah], who will do these things.

Zechariah 5:4
[The LORD / Yahwah] Almighty declares, ‘I will send it out, and it will enter the house of the thief and the house of anyone who swears falsely by my name. It will remain in that house and destroy it completely, both its timbers and its stones.’”

Zechariah 13:9
This third I will put into the fire; I will refine them like silver and test them like gold. They will call on my name and I will answer them; I will say, ‘They are my people,’ and they will say, ‘[The LORD / Yahwah] is our God.’”

Malachi 1:6
[ Breaking Covenant Through Blemished Sacrifices ] “A son honors his father, and a slave his master. If I am a father, where is the honor due me? If I am a master, where is the respect due me?” says [the LORD / Yahwah] Almighty. “It is you priests who show contempt for my name. “But you ask, ‘How have we shown contempt for your name?’

Malachi 1:11
My name will be great among the nations, from where the sun rises to where it sets. In every place incense and pure offerings will be brought to me, because my name will be great among the nations,” says [the LORD / Yahwah] Almighty.

Malachi 1:14
“Cursed is the cheat who has an acceptable male in his flock and vows to give it, but then sacrifices a blemished animal to the Lord. For I am a great king,” says [the LORD / Yahwah] Almighty, “and my name is to be feared among the nations.

Malachi 2:2
If you do not listen, and if you do not resolve to honor my name,” says [the LORD / Yahwah] Almighty, “I will send a curse on you, and I will curse your blessings. Yes, I have already cursed them, because you have not resolved to honor me.

Malachi 2:5
“My covenant was with him, a covenant of life and peace, and I gave them to him; this called for reverence and he revered me and stood in awe of my name.

Malachi 4:2
But for you who revere my name, the sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its rays. And you will go out and frolic like well-fed calves.
 

6days

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I didn't read all the replies so... apology if this has been said. But I don't think our Savior minds whatever name translators in that language have used. We have a host of different names given to 'Jesus' in the Bible, and I don't think we need to try use the Armaic or Greek words instead of English. (Jesus has names such as Last Adam, Almighty, Alpha and Omega, Holy One... and MANY other names)
 

CherubRam

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I didn't read all the replies so... apology if this has been said. But I don't think our Savior minds whatever name translators in that language have used. We have a host of different names given to 'Jesus' in the Bible, and I don't think we need to try use the Armaic or Greek words instead of English. (Jesus has names such as Last Adam, Almighty, Alpha and Omega, Holy One... and MANY other names)

Jesus means Hey Zeus. I think you should take the time to read the other post.
 

beameup

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The Holy Spirit communicates directly with our spirit, not in some human language.
Our spirit may "convert" this to our native tongue, but the conviction of sinfulness
and the encounter with the holiness of God needs no "human language" to understand.
 
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