ECT WHY THE VAIL ??

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DAN P

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SaulToPaul said:
We are on the same team, Dan.

The Kingdom program had Jews and some Gentiles. The Body program has Gentiles and some Jews.
IP does not know what he's saying.
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Hi and some of the most famous gentiles are , Rahab and Ruth who are in the linage of Christ and of course Cornelius and the Ethiopian BUT all belonged to Israel and are not in the B o c !!

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DAN P

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d'ism by definition means there are 2 peoples and programs. Otherwise it would be in agreement with Gal 3 etc. It is not.
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Hi and just where is a verse for that assertion ?

OIKONOMIA / DISEPSATION means OIKOS means HOUSE and NOMOS means Law , so where are there 2 here ??

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DAN P

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d'ism by definition means there are 2 peoples and programs. Otherwise it would be in agreement with Gal 3 etc. It is not.
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Hi mand can not debate and answer what 2 Cor 3:13-17 really mean ??

I know that this verse kill your theology , concerning Jesus earthly ministry and does AWAY with Baptism , Repentance and sacrifices , Healing , Repentance , Tongues ETC & ETC !!

So you have no answer and this means I WIN ??

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DAN P

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d'ism by definition means there are 2 peoples and programs. Otherwise it would be in agreement with Gal 3 etc. It is not.
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Hi and you will not say that Israel has been set aside , when you all see that the Law of Moses is being FAZED OUT ?

You can not debunk the OP , can you ?

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DAN P

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SaulToPaul said:
We are on the same team, Dan.

The Kingdom program had Jews and some Gentiles. The Body program has Gentiles and some Jews.
IP does not know what he's saying.
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Hi arguments are all an ILLUSION and will never explain how a person under a 1P 1P can be saved NOR explain where he will go when He dies , SADDDDDDDDD !!

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DAN P said:
Hi and you will not say that Israel has been set aside , when you all see that the Law of Moses is being FAZED OUT ?

You can not debunk the OP , can you ?

dan p
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All unbelievers have been set aside. It was a myth in inter-testament Judaism that the race alone was enough to include a person in the promises. That's why John B was a bolt of lightening: 'do not say to yourselves 'we are children of Abraham...' He said that to those with the pedigree!
 
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DAN P said:
Hi arguments are all an ILLUSION and will never explain how a person under a 1P 1P can be saved NOR explain where he will go when He dies , SADDDDDDDDD !!

dan p
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The NT does not pit the kingdom against the body. That is the illusion and myth of D'ism. It does not submit to the NT because it is an 'expert' on it.
 
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DAN P said:
Hi and are you saying that The KINGDOM of HEAVEN is the same as the B O C , so , produce that verse ??

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There are a cluster of expressions that were about the new community that was forming. Only D'ism with its 2 programs WANTS to find ways to fracture, compartmentalize these things and they are not supposed to be. It is supposed to end up like Eph 4:3-6. There is one unified community even though there are gifts for helping it function that are very different, as different as men and women.
 
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There are a cluster of expressions that were about the new community that was forming. Only D'ism with its 2 programs WANTS to find ways to fracture, compartmentalize these things and they are not supposed to be. It is supposed to end up like Eph 4:3-6. There is one unified community even though there are gifts for helping it function that are very different, as different as men and women.
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Only anti-dispensational ignoramus' would want to put two things together that God has NOT YET put together. Eph 1:10
 
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DAN P

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There are a cluster of expressions that were about the new community that was forming. Only D'ism with its 2 programs WANTS to find ways to fracture, compartmentalize these things and they are not supposed to be. It is supposed to end up like Eph 4:3-6. There is one unified community even though there are gifts for helping it function that are very different, as different as men and women.
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Hi and in othrt words , YOU HAVE NO ANSWER but Right Divder GAVE you a verse , so why not comment on it ??

You can not say how you where saved and Acts 9:6 and Acts 16:14 and 1 Cor 12:3 make no sense to you !!

Your claim , that at one time you WERE a dispensationalist , are at best CALLOW !!

dan p
 
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There are a cluster of expressions that were about the new community that was forming. Only D'ism with its 2 programs WANTS to find ways to fracture, compartmentalize these things and they are not supposed to be. It is supposed to end up like Eph 4:3-6. There is one unified community even though there are gifts for helping it function that are very different, as different as men and women.
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Blending is wrong, for the sake of blending.
 
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Right Divider said:
Only anti-dispensational ignoramus' would want to put two things together that God has NOT YET put together. Eph 1:10
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That's just silly. God does not expect us now to unify heaven and earth. he expects us to be unified on earth. D'ism finds every thing it can to fracture and compartmentalize NT doctrine. As you can see down in v21, things are unified in Christ this way "not only in the present age but also in the age to come." 1:10 is not an automatic D'ist meaning, which is totally foreign to the NT. The NT always has the unresolved tension between proclaiming that Christ is now Lord and the fact that the world is in darkness. It is never one or the other. It is always both. It simply says in v19 that the POWER that resurrected Christ is at work now everywhere, but of course there is still opposition.

Btw, since RD always has so much trouble with the expression 'in Christ,' he might be interested to know it is here 8x in the 1st 14 verses--since RD is the expert on these verses. To say the OT hope is fulfilled 'in Christ' is saying it is fulfilled in the same thing.
 
Right Divider

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That's just silly. God does not expect us now to unify heaven and earth. he expects us to be unified on earth. D'ism finds every thing it can to fracture and compartmentalize NT doctrine. As you can see down in v21, things are unified in Christ this way "not only in the present age but also in the age to come." 1:10 is not an automatic D'ist meaning, which is totally foreign to the NT. The NT always has the unresolved tension between proclaiming that Christ is now Lord and the fact that the world is in darkness. It is never one or the other. It is always both. It simply says in v19 that the POWER that resurrected Christ is at work now everywhere, but of course there is still opposition.
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Your "understanding" of "NT doctrine" is quite simply garbage.

Your completely nonsensical "if it's not repeated, it's cancelled" doctrine has led you to shear stupidity.

Interplanner said:
Btw, since RD always has so much trouble with the expression 'in Christ,' he might be interested to know it is here 8x in the 1st 14 verses--since RD is the expert on these verses. To say the OT hope is fulfilled 'in Christ' is saying it is fulfilled in the same thing.
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Your making "fulfilled in Christ" mean whatever you want will not fool those that understand what ALL of scripture it teaching.

God promised Israel that they would have a King to sit on a throne in Jerusalem. Your fairy story will not change that.
 
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Right Divider said:
Your "understanding" of "NT doctrine" is quite simply garbage.

Your completely nonsensical "if it's not repeated, it's cancelled" doctrine has led you to shear stupidity.


Your making "fulfilled in Christ" mean whatever you want will not fool those that understand what ALL of scripture it teaching.

God promised Israel that they would have a King to sit on a throne in Jerusalem. Your fairy story will not change that.
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DAN P

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Interplanner said:
That's just silly. God does not expect us now to unify heaven and earth. he expects us to be unified on earth. D'ism finds every thing it can to fracture and compartmentalize NT doctrine. As you can see down in v21, things are unified in Christ this way "not only in the present age but also in the age to come." 1:10 is not an automatic D'ist meaning, which is totally foreign to the NT. The NT always has the unresolved tension between proclaiming that Christ is now Lord and the fact that the world is in darkness. It is never one or the other. It is always both. It simply says in v19 that the POWER that resurrected Christ is at work now everywhere, but of course there is still opposition.

Btw, since RD always has so much trouble with the expression 'in Christ,' he might be interested to know it is here 8x in the 1st 14 verses--since RD is the expert on these verses. To say the OT hope is fulfilled 'in Christ' is saying it is fulfilled in the same thing.
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Hi and we are in Eph 4:3 , to keep the UNITY OF THE Spirit in the bond of peace and then God will perform

then in Eph 1:10 , then God will complete the dispensation of the FULNESS of Time to head up up THE ALL THINGS /TA PANTA !!

dan p
 
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