ECT Why shouldn't I convert from Evangelical Protestant to Catholic?

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God's Truth said:
If you do things that are NOT in the Bible---then you practice words of MEN.
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If so, then Protestants constantly "practice words of men."

Acts 5:29 Peter and the other apostles replied: "We must obey God rather than human beings!
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Amen.

Matthew 15:6-9 Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition.

Mark 7:8-9, 13 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of men.” And he said to them: “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions!

13 Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”
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Yes, Jesus condemned "the traditions of men." However, he certainly did not condemn Apostolic Tradition, which the apostles actually command believers to affirm and follow (1 Cor. 11:2; 2 Thess. 2:15). Thus, not all "tradition" in the Bible is condemned, but only that which originates with men apart from the authoritative teachings of Christ's one historic Church.

The apostles from the New Testament received all the truth we need to guide us to eternal life. All we need to guide us to eternal life is written down in the Scriptures
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You're assuming (wrongly) that all apostolic teaching is contained in the Bible. Go ahead and cite a text of Scripture which states any such thing.

We do not need elected men to interpret God’s word for us...
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If you do not compare your personal opinions (interpretations) with the established teachings of Christ's one historic Church, how can you know with certainty that your proposed interpretations (opinions) are in fact correct?



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Bright Raven said:
It would be nice to see you answer the question rather than direct to cited Catholic sources.
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What's the difference? Either way, the information is provided, and the question is answered. Why complain about the manner in which the information is provided?
 
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Cruciform said:
If so, then Protestants constantly "practice words of men."


Amen.


Yes, Jesus condemned "the traditions of men." However, he certainly did not condemn Apostolic Tradition, which the apostles actually command believers to affirm and follow (1 Cor. 11:2; 2 Thess. 2:15). Thus, not all "tradition" in the Bible is condemned, but only that which originates with men apart from the authoritative teachings of Christ's one historic Church.


You're assuming (wrongly) that all apostolic teaching is contained in the Bible. Go ahead and cite a text of Scripture which states any such thing.


If you do not compare your personal opinions (interpretations) with the established teachings of Christ's one historic Church, how can you know with certainty that your proposed interpretations (opinions) are in fact correct?



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All you do is make excuses why you will NOT obey Jesus.

Jesus says call no man 'father', and that we are brothers.

Catholics call their brothers in Christ 'father'.

Jesus says man's traditions are wrong.

Catholics say we can do traditions from men if we call them "Apostolic Traditions."

God says not to make a statue and bow to it.

Catholics say it is a statue of God and we are really bowing to Him.

The word of God says Jesus is the only mediator between God and man.

Catholics say no, without Mary Jesus would not be here, so we pray to Mary

Stop making excuses to not obey God.
 
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God's Truth said:
Let's discuss the scriptures. You are trying to make this thread about what you think of me personally.
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I know nothing about you. My comments have simply evaluated your actions on this thread. The charge of disingenuousness describes your own posted statements.
 
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God's Truth said:
The Bible is clearly written!
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How, then, to explain the some 50,000+ man-made Protestant (non-Catholic) denominations and sects in existence to date, with more being invented every week---all based upon some man's preferred interpretations of the "clearly written" Bible?

See this and this.



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Cruciform said:
How, then, to explain the some 50,000+ man-made Protestant (non-Catholic) denominations and sects in existence to date, with more being invented every week---all based upon some man's preferred interpretations of the "clearly written" Bible?
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Satan ensnares people.

The Catholic religion has false doctrines just like all denominations.
 
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God's Truth said:
Satan ensnares people.
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How, then, can you be certain that your preferred interpretations of the Bible are correct, rather than merely a case of you being "ensnared by Satan"?

The Catholic religion has false doctrines just like all denominations.
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  • First, the Catholic Church is not a "denomination." Being Christ's original one historic Church, it simply cannot in any way qualify as a such.
  • Second, being Christ's one historic Church, with whose teachings Jesus equated his very own infallible teachings (Lk. 10:16; 1 Tim. 3:15), the Church can no more teach "false doctrines" than can Jesus Christ himself. As Christ himself promised, the gates of Hades will never prevail against the Church (Mt. 16:18).


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