And, I have not stated that other people owe me an obligation to make me feel comfortable?
If I operated under that premise I wouldn't be here.
Why is sex and sexual orientation so public?
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And, I have not stated that other people owe me an obligation to make me feel comfortable?
If I operated under that premise I wouldn't be here.
Yet you keep complaining about behavior that upsets you but that's so vague no one here really knows what you're complaining about.
I think--from what I can gather--you apparently have a problem with PDA. Well...uh...people are affectionate. Can't really change that.
Quetzal
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That is fair enough. What I will say, however, is that is the very reason this issue even exists. It exists because a group of people are not comfortable with two men or two women holding hands.
Well ya! In Santa Monica sex on the beach is a regular occurrence. I guess if I'd like my children not to see it I would have to stay away from the beach?
I don't have a superior view. That is your stance! I am not talking about casual signs of affection. I am uncomfortable with blatant displays of sexual groping and simulating of the sex act if not outright performance thereof.
And I never mentioned gender. I don't care who it is. Are you saying then that since I am so smugly superior and judgmental in my views I need to be accepting and tolerant of any and all behaviors in public? If that is the case then you ought to be tolerant of my behavior in public!
PureX
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All I'm saying is that there is a LOT of self-righteousness involved in the intolerance of homosexuals and homosexuality. So much so that people become outraged at the sight of two men kissing, or even holding hands. And that outrage is so wrapped in self-righteousness that imagines itself completely reasonable and justified. Which then presumes that the men touching each other in public are completely unreasonable and unjustified. THEY are the "culprits". THEY are the cause of the outrage. THEY are the problem that must be "fixed" and not the homophobe's homophobia.
You can figure out for yourself where you fit in this scenario. And to what degree.
annabenedetti
like marbles on glass
That's the core of it. It's the attempt to impose a religious belief on a secular society. For those who don't see homosexuality as a sin (because their particular religious beliefs don't see it as a sin or because they don't believe in the idea of religious sin), it's a non-issue, and hopefully the day will come when conversations like these are unnecessary.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
Greg Jennings
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Do you believe it's any worse than heterosexual adultery?
Greg Jennings
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And what do you believe should be the punishment for both homosexuality and adultery in today's world?
I know this question wasn't for me but I had a thought progression. For me it's not the sin that disturbs me. People sin and will sin in infinite ways, it's mostly none of my business unless my rights are violated.
What bothers me is the disgust factor; gay sex is disgusting period. Top that off with the LBGTQF agendas and making same sex marriages legal and it's too much. After the disgust and absurdity of gay love, then we can also say it is an abomination and a sin in God's eyes (I know God is first but many gays are Godless heathens)
God forgives and still loves, but sin is sin. I don't have to accept it as standard practice, and I don't have to tolerate it. Like ACW says we need to organize in our communities and vote and be heard (acw has good plans), in the meantime I am "ok" as long as I don't have it shoved in my face everywhere I turn. I don't need to see and hear about it as a daily news feed.
Quetzal
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This will be good.
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ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
death penalty :duh:
Greg Jennings
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Wow really? Do you know how many millions (perhaps hundreds of millions) of murders that would require?
While we're on the subject of murder, do you consider abortion murder? And if you do, how can you be appalled by the murder of millions in cases of abortion but at the same time advocate the murder of millions of people who, under current laws, would not be killed?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
not at all
only a few swift executions would be required to notify the criminals that their behavior would no longer be tolerated
of course
see above
Greg Jennings
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If what you are saying was true then nobody would ever kill anybody because they'd be afraid of capital punishment. But still murder happens every day. So I doubt anything would be curtailed
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alwight
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Likewise for those who dare to wear mixed weave cloth?
What is apparent to you is a product of your own imagining.
I am stating my thoughts on a subject in an open forum. I am not complaining. Whenever something is in my purview to change I do so. When it comes to manners I mind my own. And even when in the presence of an abysmal clot I do not wish to create a scene... unless I have to.
Those signs of affection which are traditionally considered acceptable in public generally touch my heart! A hug, a kiss a pat on the back, holding hands and sitting close together starry eyed.
And yes I look away when things get hot and heavy.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
can you imagine how many murders would occur if there was no law against it, no penalty for doing it?
Quetzal
New member
You seem pretty new here, but ok doser is one of the more unreasonable posters on the forum. These kind of replies are not out of the ordinary for him.