Do you consider yourself a christian?
Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 4
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Do you consider yourself a christian?
You mean aside from aCW.
Well lets see
Is any of this true?
...no, it isn't
If it's not true then it is...(say it with me) a lie.
When when evidence was presented showing the claims made were false witness did you acknowledge that they were not true?
...No
Did you ignore the evidence and walk away?
...pretty much.
So when you say this:
and if it isn't true what is it...?
Dante, if those statistics Dodge posted were wrong, where is your evidence that they're wrong?
I mean, you can deny them all you want, but unless you can show otherwise, you're just showing yourself to be in denial.
Lon
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Why do you think being against a harmful behavior is hate??? I have relatives. They are dying. You? You empowered them along with the rest of the left who took this off the books as psychologically harmful. I just read more stats from Canada last month: Still dying 20 years+ before the rest of society. 1/3 of all kids in same-sex homes still are abused. Nothing has changed. Do you, or I hate? Do you or I care? Any relatives on your side?
:think: Matthew 12:48-50 Keep reading the words of Jesus though :up: I think there needs to be some vesting to be seen as viable biblical advice. A Google search just doesn't work that well for appropriate context. When I was learning inductive Bible study, the professor relayed a story of a man that closed his eyes and opened his bible. He put his finger on a text hoping for advice on what to do about a difficult situation. 1 Corinthians 15:32b. Believing it was not for him, he closed his eyes once and opened his bible landing on Matthew 27:5. Confused, he tried one more time and landed on 2 Peter 1:19. Panicked, he quickly repeated landing on 1 Peter 3:6. He stopped, prayed, closed his eyes and opened his bible and his finger landed on Luke 10:37b
It sounds like advice to the other target-group?
dodge
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I do not know where you are from but I was raised in New Orleans and it was and is common for homosexuals to cruise and hunt underage kids it is part of what they do.
Still hoping to lecture me about how when you do it it really isn't bigotry at all?
Do you?
No, I'm trying to have a reasonable conversation with you without you getting all snarky and defensive. Is that possible? Or should I stop trying and state for the public record that MrDante doesn't like to talk logically about issues?
Do you mean like the claim:
Well it's pretty old and the best you would get on line is an abstract. SO you can do what I did some years ago, you to your local university or community college and head to the library reference desk. Ask for a copy. Then sit yourself down and have a read. When you do you will find that the above isn't true and Van de Ven's actual finding was "homosexual men had either 1 (28.5%)or between 2-5 (44.9%) partners and (23.9%) had had between 5 and 10 partners.”
Do i think for one second that you will do anything remotely like this? Not a chance.
as for the two other very different claims Dodge posted there, they both came from the same source, the book "homosexualities" by Bell and Weinberg. Go grab a copy and when you can tell me which of the numbers is correct we can have a talk about that.
Of course if you do this (Yeah right) the first thing I will ask you is to look at the statistics for the control heterosexual group that Bell and Weinberg studied. If your going to claim that group A is more promiscuous then group B you need to have stats from a control group of B, you know, an equivalent number of individuals recruited to a study in the same way as group A.
Of course Bell and Weinberg never had a control group and have not data on just how promiscuous or not promiscuous they are.
is being against false witness and prejudice hate?
Why do you think being against a harmful behavior is hate???
I'm sorry to hear that. But everyone will go through relatives dying at some point.
Do you mean how homosexuality was removed form the DSM because no one could present any evidence that it was a mental illness or even harmful?
Was this the study done my Robert Hogg? Please say it was, I love it when people try to use this one.
Are you referring to "How different are adult children of parents in same sex relationships" by Mark Regnerous.
I have my fingers crossed that it is.
Hogg and Regnerous together...It would be like Christmas morning.
I live in the real world. The world where making up facts is still a lie.
reasonable? logically?
Have you read any of your posts here?
Here's a reasonable question. When you waxed poetic about the good days when people like Mike Hughes would have be "taken care of"...what exactly do you think would be done do to him?
dodge
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I lived in New Orleans and saw the homosexuals repeatedly try to pick 10 and 11 year old boys. Wake up and get out of the dream world and lies you try to justify and live in.
I was hoping that you'd point out where he went wrong in the article.
https://apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=7&article=1428
Welcome back to the WHMBR! threads Angel4Truth. As I recall, due to my lying, you weren't going to post in my WHMBR! threads any longer.
Since you're here, and since ...Dante didn't accept my challenge from an earlier post: http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...ized!-Part-4&p=4967050&viewfull=1#post4967050 , perhaps you can tell us if the church that Terry (the caller in Bob Enyart's video) attended, the Metropolitan Community Church, shares the message of Christ and hence those that attend can call themselves "Christian".
Here's it's statement of faith from it's website (Overview/MCC core documents):
Statement of Faith
Preamble
Metropolitan Community Churches is one chapter in the story of the Church, the Body of Christ. We are people on a journey, learning to live into our spirituality, while affirming our bodies, our genders, our sexualities. We don't all believe exactly the same things. And yet in the midst of our diversity, we build community, grounded in God's radically inclusive love for all people. We are part of an ongoing conversation on matters of belief and faith, shaped by scripture and the historic creeds, building on those who have come before us. Our chapter begins when God says to us: "Come, taste, and see."
Our Faith
"Come, taste, and see." Jesus Christ, You invite all people to Your open table. You make us Your people, a beloved community. You restore the joy of our relationship with God, even in the midst of loneliness, despair, and degradation. We are each unique and we all belong, a priesthood of all believers. Baptized and filled with Your Holy Spirit, You empower us to be Your healing presence in a hurting world.
We expect to see Your reign on earth as it is in heaven as we work toward a world where everyone has enough, wars cease, and all creation lives in harmony. We affirm Your charge to all of humanity to care for the land, sea, and air. Therefore, we will actively resist systems and structures which are destroying Your creation.
With all of creation we worship You—every tribe, every language, every people, every nation. We know You by many names, Triune God, beyond comprehension, revealed to us in Jesus Christ, who invites us to the feast.
Amen.
http://mccchurch.org/mcccd/
Thoughts?
Oh, and one last thing: Like your comrade ok doser did a couple of days ago, please don't attempt to silence the author of this 4 part thread by reporting him for TOL policy violations.
Thanks.
According to who? The same guy who says that kidnapping and rape of white women are just what all black me do?
start with the first sentence.
"Some defenders of homosexuality maintain that Jude condemned the men of Sodom—not for their homosexuality—but because they sought to have sexual relations with angels".
https://apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=7&article=1428
It appears that you don't want to debate...ahem...have a discussion on this subject either.
Moving on...
Lon
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No, but that accusation wasn't on the table.
Conversation over.
:nono: Gays picketed and lobbied for decades and it was rather 'relenting' than based off any good studies. You cannot dispute with the cdc or census bureau. "Actual" data collecting is what they do.
I gave it in the next post: cdc.gov cdc.ca ecdc.eu. There are whole sections on HIV, homosexual health risk etc. Anybody can look this up. For free even.
Sorry to disappoint you. Are you perhaps gay? I would offer sympathy but by your second line above, you don't want any. I am just sorry for you.
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