Why Calvinist Cannot Defend Their Doctrine of a Limited Atonement

Nanja

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Your confused.

We are born again by hearing and believing the Gospel, just like on the day of Pentecost. They heard, They believed, They received the Holy Spirit and were saved. You can read about it in Acts 2.

"So then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God" Romans 10:17. Which is the Gospel.


Hearing and believing the Gospel which is Spiritual, can only be done by those who have Spiritual Life.

The hearing ear is given Prov. 20:12; John 3:27 to those who have been Born of God the Spirit.

John 8:47 He that is of God heareth God's words:
ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Because Spiritual hearing comes by having Life, we know that the faith referred to in Rom 10:17,
cannot come to a spiritually dead man because he cannot hear God's Word which is Spiritual.

See how fruitless the works of man in the flesh is Rom 8:8, in his attempt to attain Salvation?
The works he does by his own freewill are just filthy rags in God's sight Is 64:6!

But all those God has ordained / appointed unto eternal Life Acts 13:48 will believe
because it is given them John 3:27 to believe on Him Phil. 1:29!

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Robert Pate

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Banned
Hearing and believing the Gospel which is Spiritual, can only be done by those who have Spiritual Life.

The hearing ear is given Prov. 20:12; John 3:27 to those who have been Born of God the Spirit.

John 8:47 He that is of God heareth God's words:
ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Because Spiritual hearing comes by having Life, we know that the faith referred to in Rom 10:17,
cannot come to a spiritually dead man because he cannot hear God's Word which is Spiritual.

See how fruitless the works of man in the flesh is Rom 8:8, in his attempt to attain Salvation?
The works he does by his own freewill are just filthy rags in God's sight Is 64:6!

But all those God has ordained / appointed unto eternal Life Acts 13:48 will believe
because it is given them John 3:27 to believe on Him Phil. 1:29!

~~~~~


You want to believe that God creates reprobates so that he can send them to hell.

This is why you don't have saving faith.

It is not possible to believe such things about God and be saved.

You believe that he is a mean, unjust, unmerciful, unrighteous tyrant.
 

beloved57

Well-known member
You want to believe that God creates reprobates so that he can send them to hell.

This is why you don't have saving faith.

It is not possible to believe such things about God and be saved.

You believe that he is a mean, unjust, unmerciful, unrighteous tyrant.

Evil speaking against God!
 

Robert Pate

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Banned
Why,

Is it a uniquely "religious" trait to consider context when quoting scripture?

:think:


Those who have faith in Christ are no longer required to live according to laws and rules, because, "The Just Shall Live By Faith" and not according to laws, rules or religion.
 

fishrovmen

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Those who have faith in Christ are no longer required to live according to laws and rules, because, "The Just Shall Live By Faith" and not according to laws, rules or religion.

And those who are in the flesh are free from the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus Romans 8:1-3
 

Totton Linnet

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God did not create man without the ability to believe and have faith in him. What a terrible thing to believe that God creates reprobates so that he can send them to hell.

God has made a new way for fallen man to return to the Garden of Eden. Jesus said, "I am the way". Calvinism is not the way, nor is religion the way.

All who want to return to the Garden by and through Jesus Christ can now do so, if they so desire. God does not force or impose salvation on anyone, to do so would make him unjust.

If you want to return to the Garden you can do so by your own free will. "Whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.
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Yes, yes

Just as easily as the leper can decide to be cleansed and the blind man of His own free will can see, and when the Son of God shall cry with the voice of an archangel Pate will spring from his grave of his own free will.
 

Robert Pate

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Banned
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Yes, yes

Just as easily as the leper can decide to be cleansed and the blind man of His own free will can see, and when the Son of God shall cry with the voice of an archangel Pate will spring from his grave of his own free will.


Most of those that were healed by Jesus came to him by their own free wills.
 

Totton Linnet

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If you were a leper and you heard that Christ was cleansing leprosy, then it is leprosy, not your free will that will bring you.
 

beloved57

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Those who were healed by Christ came to Christ.

Read your Bible, Matthew 11:28.

Those whom Christ took stripes for are healed Spiritually 1 Pet 2:24

24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
 
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