Right Divider
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Like the usual ignoramus that you are, you didn't even understand what was being discussed. Come back when you do!
ECT Who is responsible for "dying to self"?
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Right Divider
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When someone butts into a conversation and does not even know what is being discussed I have no problem calling it for what it is.
I realize that the only standard that you accept is the one that you have made up for others to follow.
Get lost LA, you're nothing but a thorn in all of our sides.
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Are you sidestepping my question concerning the "mind of Christ" on purpose?
marhig
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So you believe that life of Jesus doesn't save. I'm afraid your very wrong, God saved with life, he is life, he's a living God with rivers of living water who brings life and puts away death.
So, what do you believe is the blood on the doorposts of your heart that stops the destroyer entering in, if it's not the life of Christ within, and it's not the natural blood of Jesus from 2000 years ago? what is it?
marhig
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No I don't, I don't see it as you do. Stop lying about me.
We have to have to resist unto blood, which is to deny ourselves and live it out, denying ourselves and living by the life of Christ, by the spirit in our lives, life saves! We are to walk the walk.
Hebrews 12
KJV
Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.
NIV
In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood.
EST
In your struggle against sin you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood.
We too have to shed our blood, which is deny ourselves, bare our cross as Jesus bore his and follow him! Living it out!
You just can't see it, what does Paul mean when he says that we have not yet resisted to the point of shedding our blood? Do we have to be crucified naturally?
God's Truth
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Paul says those who fell in the desert were a warning to us. They did not obey that is why they fell.
God's Truth
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What? You have to ask the Holy Spirit what to do?
Jesus already told us what to do.
I do not understand what you are trying to say.
God's Truth
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I know you disagree with the truth.
We do not die daily. We die one time and then raise up to LIVE.
Romans 6:4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
Did you read that? Do you understand that? We die and then raise up TO LIVE A NEW LIFE.
God's Truth
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When Jesus walked the earth he says to repent of sins(Luke 13:5).
In addition, the disciples after having received the Holy Spirit, they CONTINUED to preach that the people should believe AND REPENT of their sins and call on Jesus' name (Acts 2:38, Acts 5:31, Luke 24:47, Acts 3:19,) and, even PAUL HIMSELF PREACHED REPENT of SINS (Acts 17:30; Acts 20:21, Acts 26:20, 2 Corinthians 12:21).
When Jesus died, rose again, and ascended to heaven, he taught to obey and repent of sins, Revelation 3:3, Revelation 14:12, Revelation 2:5, Revelation 3:19, Revelation 9:20,21,Revelation 16:10, 11.
marhig
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GT, do you obey the spirit of God daily? Or do you do what your flesh wants to do?
lifeisgood
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Every day.
I wonder how many things did you hear Jesus tell you personally that you need to be reminded of by the Comforter to do.
Not surprising as you have lost your reading understanding glasses.
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lifeisgood
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You mean like you:
"Everything Jesus says stands forever…. Jesus' words are for everyone.....We always have to obey God ...We always have to obey Jesus….........I obey all of Jesus' teachings....I follow all of Jesus teachings, exactly as he says…..Faith is obeying everything that Jesus says....I obey everything Jesus says...."— Courtesy of Saint John W
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lifeisgood
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I do not lie, I simply repeat what you say. Like this:
One's eternal destination is at stake here. You get Christ Jesus wrong, it matters not what else you get right. You got Jesus wrong.
lifeisgood
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Yes, the Lord does NOT call upon Believers to go to the Cross and shed their blood, regarding the resistance of sin. Jesus has already done that for us.
Cross Reference
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Gotcha!! I would have put it that, as it was with Jesus as He prayed, we have not, as He prayed, resisted as to our sweat becoming as drops of our own blood, as was His experience by the knowledge of the cross set before Him. That is what Paul was inferring." cfMark 8:34 (KJV) for the implications of his words.
lifeisgood
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If you think you need to shed YOUR blood; then you are saying publicly that Christ Jesus’ BLOOD was not enough to save you and you need to help Him to finish what He already said ‘It is finished.’
Remember though that God said, ‘When I see the BLOOD…’ I will pass over you (save you). BTW God is NOT looking for YOUR blood.
lifeisgood
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Paul is saying that Christ Jesus ALREADY did that and we are to trust in the only way that saves — Jesus Christ and His precious BLOOD shed on the Cross of Calvary. That is what saves a person as Paul said ‘For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.’ That is all Paul preached in one way or another. Paul was always pointing the people back to Jesus Christ and Him Crucified.
I, lifeisgood, agree with Paul and disagree with marhig.
Now, you, marhig can continue shedding your own blood and see if God will accept your blood and reject the precious blood of His beloved Son.
Remember though that God said, ‘When I see the BLOOD…’ I will pass over you (save you).
BTW God is NOT looking for YOUR blood, marhig. God is looking for the BLOOD of His beloved Son on the doorposts of your heart.
Cross Reference
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Not intentionally. What have I missed in your question?
To the believer Paul writes: "For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ." 1 Corinthians 2:16 (KJV) What do you believe that means from Paul? What is the significance in what he is saying to Pentecostal Christians?