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Tambora

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How can you if you class the 'white race' as the superior one on Earth and then claim that nobody really disputes that?
They have done more.
Could be because of opportunity, or sheer numbers, or any number of reasons.

Doing more does not mean that others were not intelligent enough to do the same.
It just turns out that whites did more.


And just humans made to sit at the back of the bus, right?
How does where a human being sits on a bus determine superiority?



I'm not the one arguing that skin colour or creed determines an inherent superiority
Neither have I.



I see people as people, not as black or white
Apparently you do. And apparently you are disgusted with whites that had black slaves.
You certainly bring up color every time you talk about slavery.
Why not just say slaves and slaves owners instead of blacks and whites if you see all people as just people?

When speaking about anything negative that any white did to a black, you bring up color and how deplorable whites were.
But when someone brings up positive things whites did, you jump to the conclusion they are a KKK white supremacist that thinks whites are superior because of their skin color.


The fact remains though that prejudice caused 'black' people to be treat as scum and inferior and by those who identified as 'white' instead of human. You surely don't need a history lesson on the deep south do you?
There's that color thing again.
No, I don't need a history lesson on the deep south.
Do you need one on Africa before there even was a deep south?
Or any part of the world for that matter.
You'll be hard pressed to find a history of any color that did not enslave other humans.
Why is it that only the white masters of black slaves in the deep south are so horrible to you?
 

ClimateSanity

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Tambora said " Why is it that only the white masters of black slaves in the deep south are so horrible to you?"

Because he is unwilling to accept that a good chunk of African Americans have only themselves to blame for their current condition. If slavery was never taught in schools and all memory of it was erased in the minds of everyone, the black condition in America would disappear in less than a decade.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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What is 'Stormfront' about it?
Oh, it doesn't blindly defend your narrative on Jews, so it must be straight up white, racist bigotry :rolleyes:

You're slyly trying to get me banned by appealing to the Madists on here wouldn't find fault in a Jew if they burned down their church :chuckle:
I mean, just like you do with any minority, so do they with them.



New York City arrests for homicide, 2014 statistics:

White: 2.9 percent
Black: 61.8 percent
Hispanic: 31.8 percent

Asian: 2.7 percent
Other: 0.8 percent


New York City is the largest melting pot in the country
But
Just like any other city, it is naturally segregated.

That is because your multiculturalism must be forced, and when it is forced, bad things happen.
It's as simple as that, you all make excuse after excuse to dodge the inevitable.

Glad to see you got yourself banned again. It's a long time coming.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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You would make a poor witness when asked to describe the person that did something.

I agree.

Wait.
There's only one race - human.
So it wasn't black slaves and white masters.
It was human slaves and human masters.

Plus, you could always look up the history of the African people in Africa and their slave and master habits.
Or you could just stay in American history where blacks also had slaves.
So if both whites and blacks had slaves, then it's nothing more than human masters and human slaves (bringing up the color of either would be racist), and it cannot be considered superior or inferior to be either a master or a slave.
And if being a master or a slave has nothing to do with superiority, then what's the problem with being either? You are on equal standing --- superior wise.

I think it's best for "Art Brainless" to stay in "Jolly Old England." We have enough "LIBS" already.
 

Town Heretic

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They have done more.
Wait, you were serious? :plain:

In a way it makes sense. I mean, unless you were naturally skeptical and curious the chances are you were fed broad stroke, Eurocentric history lessons that largely left out significant in-culture contributions of minorities and relegated other contributions to near foot note status.

Could be because of opportunity, or sheer numbers, or any number of reasons.
Like that. The assumption that it's an unquestionable fact, that all we have to understand is why it is a fact.

But if you felt objectively compelled to think of world accomplishments in racial terms and weren't rooted in the histories of the latest victor, so to speak, you might come away thinking of whites as a people largely adept at integrating and improving the ideas of others, of building successfully upon them as much as anything else, finding their feet when the opportunities that skill afforded would pay real dividends in power. Take gun powder, an invention of the Chinese people that Europeans used to deadly effect, cementing their militarily fueled rise to power in the civilization game.

Law, the foundation of meaningful civilization, begins with Hammurabi's code. Mathematics, science, medicine, irrigation, music, writing, novels, paper, ink, the compass all found their origin elsewhere. The fact is that civilization itself begins and flourishes without white Europeans. Not that any number of noteworthy advancements weren't born in the cradle of Western civilization, but it's really one great story among many. Those of us who were born into it should understand that much of its success is found in the natural tide of history. When the West was rising it was in a position to pull together a number of developing and great ideas and use them to anchor its own rise in a way that was going to safeguard a degree of longevity and success. Luck of the draw, to some extent. You conquer most of the known world you get most of what it knows to make use of. In the day of the West, that has been some draw.

Apparently you do. And apparently you are disgusted with whites that had black slaves.
You certainly bring up color every time you talk about slavery.
Why not just say slaves and slaves owners instead of blacks and whites if you see all people as just people
This is sort of a non-issue though, when you think about it. Race is artificial and a goofy way to view people, but it's a perfectly legitimate way to view the way people have viewed people and its impact.

Or, once upon a time in the South (and elsewhere, but we made it a near art form) people were viewed, discussed, and their rights or social status was impacted by their "blood", by which was meant the interracial heritage. You can speak about it and to it and its impact without sharing the values and intellectual distortions that marked it..

Do you need one on Africa before there even was a deep south?
Or any part of the world for that matter.
You'll be hard pressed to find a history of any color that did not enslave other humans.
True enough. One of the things that makes us different is that we threw off the horror of that practice as a young nation, a nation that understood how much of its vitality, wealth and power had been forged on the anvil of slavery. It made us approach it differently even as the institutionalized mindset that made it possible threw obstacles in the path of meaningful address at every point of consideration...so even though we knew better, we allowed portions of the evil to exist beyond the fact of slavery, impacting generations of black children, their rights and opportunities, allowed a mindset to develop in any number of ways, so that it wasn't that long ago the thought of a black quarterback was unthinkable. Not illegal, of course, but seriously (it went).

So we're nearer to the harm, both ugly root and profit of slavery and the palpable denial of right and consequential harm that followed it, even as a matter of law, within the living memory of much of our compact, nearer than the examples those who don't like that reality tend to bring up. That everyone did it and we can't address (or don't seek to) the wrong is no real answer to the immediacy of what our compact did and how it profited by it. And if we cite the plight of our distant ancestors in equally distant times it's not objectively the same thing, not of the same moment as the sons of those alive who were denied some essential part of their humanity.

Why is it that only the white masters of black slaves in the deep south are so horrible to you?
I'm pretty sure he'd be as vocally opposed to the race riots in the north and elsewhere. It's easier to see and address it in the South, because we had the bloodiest hands in.
 

Arthur Brain

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Tambora said " Why is it that only the white masters of black slaves in the deep south are so horrible to you?"

Because he is unwilling to accept that a good chunk of African Americans have only themselves to blame for their current condition. If slavery was never taught in schools and all memory of it was erased in the minds of everyone, the black condition in America would disappear in less than a decade.

What a load of bunk. The fact that you equate their "condition" (whatever that supposedly is) with learning about slavery just speaks volumes. Your 'solution'? Let's just forget about it and pretend it never happened! :cloud9: Very neat I'm sure. While we're at it let's pretend that every other abrogation of human rights never happened either.

Holocaust? What holocaust?

:freak:
 

ClimateSanity

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What a load of bunk. The fact that you equate their "condition" (whatever that supposedly is) with learning about slavery just speaks volumes. Your 'solution'? Let's just forget about it and pretend it never happened! :cloud9: Very neat I'm sure. While we're at it let's pretend that every other abrogation of human rights never happened either.

Holocaust? What holocaust?

:freak:

You don't think being harped on almost everyday about how awful slavery was and how you have to still watch out for whitey has any affect at all in their condition? Do you really not understand what the black condition is in America?

The holocaust is not obsessed over everyday and considered the reason a person has problems in life like the slavery issue is here in America. Another symptom of being British and not having a clue what goes on here.
 

Arthur Brain

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They have done more.
Could be because of opportunity, or sheer numbers, or any number of reasons.

Doing more does not mean that others were not intelligent enough to do the same.
It just turns out that whites did more.

What do you base that on exactly? Probably best to answer TH on that given his response on that.

How does where a human being sits on a bus determine superiority?

It wouldn't if it was a choice. Did the black cast members of 'Gone With The Wind' choose to be restricted from viewing the film they appeared in in cinemas?

Neither have I.

You claim white people are the superior race on earth, and post a load of 'david duke' videos...

Apparently you do. And apparently you are disgusted with whites that had black slaves.
You certainly bring up color every time you talk about slavery.
Why not just say slaves and slaves owners instead of blacks and whites if you see all people as just people?

Because as much as I do not everybody else did or does. These things were perpetuated through prejudice and seeing people inferior because of their skin. Even in relatively recent history as referenced.

When speaking about anything negative that any white did to a black, you bring up color and how deplorable whites were.
But when someone brings up positive things whites did, you jump to the conclusion they are a KKK white supremacist that thinks whites are superior because of their skin color.

I don't jump to any such conclusion at all. Where are you pulling that from?

There's that color thing again.
No, I don't need a history lesson on the deep south.
Do you need one on Africa before there even was a deep south?
Or any part of the world for that matter.
You'll be hard pressed to find a history of any color that did not enslave other humans.
Why is it that only the white masters of black slaves in the deep south are so horrible to you?

It isn't. Prejudice and ignorance happens across the board unfortunately and not solely in relation to skin colour either...
 

aCultureWarrior

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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Serial adulterer, pornographer (wife #3 was a porn model who did a lesbian porno shoot), accused child rapist, etc. etc. etc.

Thanks for allowing me to point out that Donald Trump (who happens to be rich and white) is nothing but human trash.

You were once FOR trump and scolded me because i wasnt, i didnt even vote for him, you keep forgetting who you speak with, moby.

Um you supported hillary clinton, thats much worse.

I just can't help but get the feeling that you're one of many ok doser sock puppets because you two have so much in common.

Can they repent and be saved, or are they too sinful?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyDbOHvfdiE

The False Teachers: Norman Vincent Peale

As a Christian minister he told Phil Donahue, “It’s not necessary to be born again. You have your way to God, I have mine. I found eternal peace in a Shinto shrine … I’ve been to Shinto shrines and God is everywhere. … Christ is one of the ways! God is everywhere.” He denied the very heart of the Christian faith and replaced it with his doctrine of positive thinking.
http://www.challies.com/articles/the-false-teachers-norman-vincent-peale

Without a doubt the Black Community has it's problems, but I would never suggest that they look to people like Donald Trump (or you/aka ok doser) for the answer.
 

Arthur Brain

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You don't think being harped on almost everyday about how awful slavery was and how you have to still watch out for whitey has any affect at all in their condition? Do you really not understand what the black condition is in America?

The holocaust is not obsessed over everyday and considered the reason a person has problems in life like the slavery issue is here in America. Another symptom of being British and not having a clue what goes on here.

Oh please. You harp on about the 'black condition' as if that in itself is supposed to mean something? Then your bonkers solution is to discard history and pretend that slavery and the appalling treatment of those would somehow lead to your ideal of such a society?

Absolutely nuts...

:kookoo:
 

Danoh

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Oh please. You harp on about the 'black condition' as if that in itself is supposed to mean something? Then your bonkers solution is to discard history and pretend that slavery and the appalling treatment of those would somehow lead to your ideal of such a society?

Absolutely nuts...

:kookoo:

Yep - exactly what goes on here in his kind.

Go back to when Obama first ran for office - the exact same deplorables came out of the woodwork from all over North America upset over "a black man."

The "n" word was everywhere...24/7/365...

Over the man's skin color and name - not over his inexperience.

We might not care for various of Obama's policies... and say what Climate Sanity and his ever hypocrite kind might say; Obama - and his wife - weathered it all with great dignity.

In contrast, their fake golden boy is having hissy fits on social media over all sorts of stupidities - nightly.

All of them having to do with how Daffy Duck is unhappy he is not getting all the adulation his massive insecurity is ever driving him to crave beyond anything even beginning to approach any normal bound of reason...

Lol - and objectivity knows well what eventually happens in that cartoon each time Daffy is finally given his Award, just to shut him up already - KABOOM!!! all over his pucker lipped face.

Trump sure does make good entertainment :chuckle:

Then again, what a thing for so high a percentage of the citizens of a nation to have to say day in and day out of their CIC.

The man is a joke; a farce; and a disgrace and his supporters are mindless drones...

Plain and simple.
 

Tambora

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Go back to when Obama first ran for office - the exact same deplorables came out of the woodwork from all over North America upset over "a black man."

The "n" word was everywhere...24/7/365

Over the man's skin color and name - not over his inexperience.
Not here at TOL.
We talked about his politics.
I hated his politics and agenda for America.
Had nothing to do with skin color.



Obama - and his wife - weathered it all with great dignity.
Oh brother.
I remember well his negative comment about Americans that cling to their bibles and guns.

Where's my old avatar .....

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This old Sissy is proud to be one that clings to her bible and gun.
Obama can stuff it.
Good riddance.
 

Danoh

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Not here at TOL.
We talked about his politics.
I hated his politics and agenda for America.
Had nothing to do with skin color.



Oh brother.
I remember well his negative comment about Americans that cling to their bibles and guns.

Where's my old avatar .....

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This old Sissy is proud to be one that clings to her bible and gun.
Obama can stuff it.
Good riddance.

I've missed that old avatar- was just thinking about it yesterday.

And yeah; I remember that remark by Obama.

The one that was leaked to his great embarrassment - that remark he made in private :chuckle:

At the same time; having had personal experience with the very types he'd been referring to; I had to agree.

Lol, I can still remember the bullets wizzing past my head, lol

In hindsight; a hilarious moment - especially the image of them coming back all piled into the back of a pick truck :rotfl:

The "get a rope!" types :D
 
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