Whiny Atheists

Angel4Truth

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Im seeing a couple of whiners unable to produce what law, says a government employee is the exception to the first amendment.

Im not seeing that caveat anywhere.
 

Angel4Truth

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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

unless... you are a government employee
unless... you are a christian business owner

not seeing those anywhere.
 

gcthomas

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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

unless... you are a government employee
unless... you are a christian business owner

not seeing those anywhere.

The law you want identified is the Constitution. And congress didn't make that one.
 

WizardofOz

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The red, white and blue has flown outside LaPoynor High School in LaRue, Texas for as far back as anyone can remember. But instead of 50 stars on a blue field, this flag bears a cross - a symbol of the Christian faith.

The Christian flag flies alongside the Texas flag and Old Glory.

And that's a big problem for a bunch of out-of-town atheist agitators -- a mighty big problem.

The Freedom From Religion Foundation, a Wisconsin-based group of atheists, agnostics and freethinkers, sent a letter to the local school district demanding the flag be removed.

"It is unconstitutional for the school to display the Christian flag," FFRF attorney Sam Grover wrote to Supt. James Young. "The display of this patently religious symbol by the District confers government endorsement of Christianity, in violation of the Establishment Clause."

The perpetually offended atheists told the school district they must be inclusive to minority religions and non-religious people.

"The District must immediately remove the Christian flag from school grounds," Grover wrote. "In addition, the District must ensure that its staff members are not organizing, promoting, or participating in religious events while acting int heir official capacities."

The school superintendent told local news reporters they were reviewing the demand letter - but have yet to make any sort of announcement.

Link

 

Angel4Truth

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The red, white and blue has flown outside LaPoynor High School in LaRue, Texas for as far back as anyone can remember. But instead of 50 stars on a blue field, this flag bears a cross - a symbol of the Christian faith.

The Christian flag flies alongside the Texas flag and Old Glory.

And that's a big problem for a bunch of out-of-town atheist agitators -- a mighty big problem.

The Freedom From Religion Foundation, a Wisconsin-based group of atheists, agnostics and freethinkers, sent a letter to the local school district demanding the flag be removed.

"It is unconstitutional for the school to display the Christian flag," FFRF attorney Sam Grover wrote to Supt. James Young. "The display of this patently religious symbol by the District confers government endorsement of Christianity, in violation of the Establishment Clause."

The perpetually offended atheists told the school district they must be inclusive to minority religions and non-religious people.

"The District must immediately remove the Christian flag from school grounds," Grover wrote. "In addition, the District must ensure that its staff members are not organizing, promoting, or participating in religious events while acting int heir official capacities."

The school superintendent told local news reporters they were reviewing the demand letter - but have yet to make any sort of announcement.

Link


for a bunch of out-of-town atheist agitators

That says it all. I hope if it continues, it happens like many of these cases do, get thrown out because the complainant has no skin in the game since they dont live there.
 

gcthomas

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That says it all. I hope if it continues, it happens like many of these cases do, get thrown out because the complainant has no skin in the game since they dont live there.

The Constitution put limits on the government's endorsement or specific religions, such as prohibiting proselytising in government schools. 'Flying the flag' is most certainly proselytising.

Schools should support the rule of law and follow the Constitution of the US, don't you think? Even the Principle of the school seems to agree, saying "Lapoynor ISD is committed to achieving an appropriate balance between permissible religious expression and the obligation to maintain neutrality in its policies and practices."
 

WizardofOz

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The Constitution put limits on the government's endorsement or specific religions, such as prohibiting proselytising in government schools. 'Flying the flag' is most certainly proselytising.

Schools should support the rule of law and follow the Constitution of the US, don't you think? Even the Principle of the school seems to agree, saying "Lapoynor ISD is committed to achieving an appropriate balance between permissible religious expression and the obligation to maintain neutrality in its policies and practices."

Atheists et al are free to tell themselves that it is a 't' for 'Texas' ;)

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George Affleck

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The constitution does not guarantee freedom from religion. It guaranties freedom of religion.

If you will admit that atheism is a religion, we will admit your right to practice it.
 

gcthomas

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The constitution does not guarantee freedom from religion. It guaranties freedom of religion.

If you will admit that atheism is a religion, we will admit your right to practice it.

The Supreme Coourt ruled in Epperson v. Arkansas:

Government in our democracy, state and national, must be neutral in matters of religious theory, doctrine, and practice. It may not be hostile to any religion or to the advocacy of no-religion; and it may not aid, foster, or promote one religion or religious theory against another or even against the militant opposite. The First Amendment mandates governmental neutrality between religion and religion, and between religion and nonreligion.

Atheists have the same rights as theists in the US, apparently, thanks to the Constitution. :)
 
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