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Actually, the phrase "between the evenings" is referring to the time between the first evening at noon and the second evening at sunset.
When does the biblical day begin?
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Actually, the phrase "between the evenings" is referring to the time between the first evening at noon and the second evening at sunset.
Jerry Shugart
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So on what day of the month do you say that the passover lamb was killed?
And what day of the month was the passover eaten?
Killed between the evenings on the 14th and eaten on the 15th.
Jacob's people came out of Egypt on the morning of the 15th.
They were unleavened. (Exodus 12:41-42)
1Mind1Spirit
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Leviticus 23:32King James Version (KJV)
32*It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.
1Mind1Spirit
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Spit er out.
1Mind1Spirit
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Yes it is a tricky question. The Bible says the Passover is always on the 14th Aviv
Numbers 28:16
"'On the fourteenth day of the first month the LORD's Passover is to be held.
and the Sabbath was on the 15th
John 19:31
Now it was the day of Preparation, and the next day was to be a special Sabbath. Because the Jewish leaders did not want the bodies left on the crosses during the Sabbath, they asked Pilate to have the legs broken and the bodies taken down.
And the day of first fruits was on the 16th:
Leviticus 23
Offering the Firstfruits
9The Lord said to Moses, 10“Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘When you enter the land I am going to give you and you reap its harvest, bring to the priest a sheaf of the first grain you harvest. 11He is to wave the sheaf before the Lord so it will be accepted on your behalf; the priest is to wave it on the day after the Sabbath.
Then how can this happen every year?
Would you like to know the answer?
This one too.
Yes, each 24-hour day goes from the second evening at sunset to the next sunset.
Two evenings per day.
Jerry Shugart
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Then why do we read this?:
"And in the fourteenth day of the first month is the passover of the LORD" (Num.28:16).
Here is how the passover is defined:
"And thus shall ye eat it; with your loins girded, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and ye shall eat it in haste: it is the LORD'S passover" (Ex.12:11).
According to the Bible the LORD's passover was on the 14th but according to you it was on the 15th.
1Mind1Spirit
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Jerry Shugart
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No, the passover was already over by the time the 15th arrived:
"And they departed from Rameses in the first month, on the fifteenth day of the first month; on the day after the passover the children of Israel went out with an high hand in the sight of all the Egyptians" (Num.33:3).
1Mind1Spirit
Literal lunatic
What, no snacks on the way out?
I don't see how that's relevant.
We don't have an ancient NT document written in Hebrew.
But we do have an ancient OT written in Greek and the word used to prepare for the Passover meal is the same word used in the NT...the word 'hetoimazo', not 'paraskeue/the preparation'.
Killed on the 14th and eaten on the 15th.
The evening that began the 15th began the Days of Unleavened Bread when the Passover was eaten.
The angel who killed the firstborn did so at midnight on the 15th and the people were asked to leave the next morning.
The Passover observance did not originate in the NT. In Jesus' day there was no Greek NT. OT yes, NT no.
WatchmanOnTheWall
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Do you really believe there are two evenings each day? Because as far as the rest of mankind are concerned we only get one evening per day. It happens when the sun goes down! [Shakes head in disbelief]
WatchmanOnTheWall
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You must understand that the lamb is killed in the 14th but it is not eaten till after the sun sets and thus they eat the lamb on the 15th after sunset just as it says in the Bible:
Genesis 1:5
God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
The day starts at sunset when evening begins:
Exodus 12:8 - 12
That same night they are to eat the meat roasted over the fire, along with bitter herbs, and bread made without yeast.
12“On that same night I will pass through Egypt and strike down every firstborn of both people and animals, and I will bring judgment on all the gods of Egypt. I am the Lord.
Night is when it is dark of course!
The lamb is killed on the 14th and Eaten on the 15th.
WatchmanOnTheWall
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Jerry Shugart
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If the killing of the firstborn happened on the 15th then why do we read that by the time the 15th arrived the passover was already over?:
"And they departed from Rameses in the first month, on the fifteenth day of the first month; on the day after the passover the children of Israel went out with an high hand in the sight of all the Egyptians" (Num.33:3).
According to this the 15th was the day after the passover. But you say that the 15th was not the day after the passover but instead the very day of the passover!.
Jerry Shugart
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Then why do we read that the passover was already over by the time when the 15th arrived?
"And they departed from Rameses in the first month, on the fifteenth day of the first month; on the day after the passover the children of Israel went out with an high hand in the sight of all the Egyptians" (Num.33:3).
You can make your assertions until you are blue in the face but until you explain what is said in this verse then you are just spinning your wheels!