Whats redemption through Christ ?
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This is from strongs dictionary.
trong’s Definitions [?](Strong’s Definitions Legend)
ἀπολύτρωσις apolýtrōsis, ap-ol-oo'-tro-sis; from a compound of G575 and G3083; (the act) ransom in full, i.e. (figuratively) riddance, or (specially) Christian salvation:—deliverance, redemption.
Nanja
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Redemption is Salvation / Justification from all sin through the Blood of Christ.
All God's Elect Christ died for, are by nature as other sinners under the power of satan, but the difference is He redeemed [Gr. eksagorazo] them all [His Elect Rom. 8:33 or Sheep John 10:11, 15], or bought them back by His Death / Blood shed on their behalf: He recovered them all by being made a curse for them.
Gal. 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
So because they've been redeemed from the curse of the Law, there is no law to violate. It's as if they never sinned Rom. 4:15.
1 Cor. 1:30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
For before the foundation of the world, they were Chosen In Union with Christ to have forgiveness / remission of sins according to the riches of His Grace Eph. 1:4-7 !
beloved57
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The word for redemption in my text is the greek word apolutrósis which means:
a release effected by payment of ransom
Usage: release effected by payment of ransom; redemption, deliverance.
Primarily this denotes a release, liberation from being under the Law, its curse, its penalty of death for the wages of sin
Jesus once said to some jews Jn 8:36
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Please carefully note this is something the Son does !
a release effected by payment of ransom
Usage: release effected by payment of ransom; redemption, deliverance.
Primarily this denotes a release, liberation from being under the Law, its curse, its penalty of death for the wages of sin
Jesus once said to some jews Jn 8:36
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Please carefully note this is something the Son does !
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i SAID
ONLY CHRISTIANS IF? ONLY LOVED IF? ONLY REDEEMED IF? IF IS A CONDITION
Heb 3:5-6
5 And Moses indeed was faithful in all His house as a servant, for a testimony of those things which would be spoken afterward,
6 but Christ as a Son over His own house, whose house we are IF we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm to the end.
Eph 4:21
21 IF indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus:
John 6:29
29 Jesus answered and said to them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent."
Matt 11:27
27 "All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
1 Pet 4:17-18
17 For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and IF it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?
18 Now "IF the righteous one is scarcely saved, where will the ungodly and the sinner appear?"
Heb 3:14
14 For we have become partakers of Christ IF we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end,
I Jn 1:8-10
8 IF we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 IF we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 IF we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.
2 Cor 10:3-5
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh.
4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds,
5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ,
I Jn 2:3-5
[3] Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.
4 He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him.
John 15:10
10 "IF you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.
John 15:14
14 "You are My friends IF you do whatever I command you.
I Jn 2:3
3 Now by this we know that we know Him, IF we keep His commandments.
Matt 6:14-15
14 "For IF you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
15 "But IF you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
I Jn 5:3-4
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.
4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world-- our faith.
Rev 22:18-19
18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: IF anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
19 and IF anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Matt 28:20
20 "teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen.
(NKJ)Col 1:23
23 IF indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister.
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xxx The IF's in the Word of God are conditions of love. There is no such thing as unconditional love. God says He will(not is) but will be a Father to us. If has always been one of the biggest conditions for love in God. God will love you IF.
2 Cor 6:14-18
14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?
15 And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever?
16 And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will dwell in them and walk among them. I will be their God, and they shall be My people."
17 Therefore "Come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, and I will receive you."
18 "I will be a Father to you, and you shall be My sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty."
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2 Pet 1:5-10
5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge,
6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness,
7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love.
8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.
10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble;
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Gal 3:29
29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
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Gal 5:24-25
24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
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John 15:7
7 "If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you.
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John 14:15
15 "If you love Me, keep My commandments.
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John 15:10
10 "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.
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Heb 8:6-7
6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second.
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John 6:65
65 And He said, "Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father."
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Luke 13:3
3 "I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.
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Luke 13:5
5 "I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish."
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beloved57
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Redemption further denotes:
everywhere in the N. T. metaphorically, viz. deliverance effected through the death of Christ from the retributive wrath of a holy God and the merited penalty of sin:
deliverance from the penalty of transgressions, effected through their expiation,
This redemption through the death of Christ for all whom He died, His Sheep or His Church have by His death alone been redeemed from the wrath of God, the penalty of their sins is gone which is death.
Folks anyone going to hell for their sins, even the second death, under the wrath of God, Christ could not have died for them. That would contradict redemption through His Blood !
everywhere in the N. T. metaphorically, viz. deliverance effected through the death of Christ from the retributive wrath of a holy God and the merited penalty of sin:
deliverance from the penalty of transgressions, effected through their expiation,
This redemption through the death of Christ for all whom He died, His Sheep or His Church have by His death alone been redeemed from the wrath of God, the penalty of their sins is gone which is death.
Folks anyone going to hell for their sins, even the second death, under the wrath of God, Christ could not have died for them. That would contradict redemption through His Blood !
Nanja
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Sure you right !
Those sinners were never any that were made free John 8:36 through the Redemption that is in Christ !
We are freed from the curse of the law...the punishment for violation...the ticket...NOT THE LAW ITSELF...that remains...
When you pay your ticket you DO NOT destroy the traffic laws...
Neither would the traffic laws be destroyed if some other driver paid them...even if they were a perfect driver...
Paul is quite clear: We establish LAW...it is NOT made void by faith...
Is why Rev 14:12
Not only does the Son set you free from the curse...but He sends you Help to be a Slave for Him...you know...the easy yoke and light burdens...which BECAUSE of what He did for you YOU WANT TO DO FOR HIM...
Neat eh?
The Bible is NOT an instruction manual on how to BECOME His people...it is an owner’s manual for those WHO ALREADY ARE HIS PEOPLE...also neat eh?
Just claim it and it’s yours...comes with a free owner’s manual on how to keep maintain and maximize its use...all the bells and whistles explained...
Peter was clear:
“But in every nation WHOEVER fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him...WHOEVER believes in Him will receive remission of sins”...neat eh? WHOEVER
Paul too “gave Himself ransom for ALL” mediating between God and men woman too...and not just the elect...
What He did for us “resulted justification of life to ALL men”
Because even those without TORAH Paul won under the Law of Christ (yup same laws)...neat eh?
beloved57
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False teaching and spam. Post 6 did u understand it ?
Did I understand post 6 as false teaching and spam...?
Not exactly spam...but how about earnest and sincere error?
I mean it almost sounds like the Law could be destroyed and was not for everyone...as if those who choose to believe and endure and persevere will NOT be keeping it forever...and as a reward for having chosen to do so...
beloved57
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Annexed with this redemption through Christ, strictly by His death is forgiveness of sins. Lets look at two scriptures where this is true Eph 1:7
7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
Col 1:14
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
The elect have these blessings before they even realize it, redemption and forgiveness of sins. There's no such thing as Christ dying for one and they dont as a result have redemption and forgiveness through His Blood, because its through Christ alone.
7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
Col 1:14
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
The elect have these blessings before they even realize it, redemption and forgiveness of sins. There's no such thing as Christ dying for one and they dont as a result have redemption and forgiveness through His Blood, because its through Christ alone.
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beloved57
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What's redemption through Christ ?
Its also Justification freely, notice Rom 3:24
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
This is an unbelievable result from redemption, that religionist cant accept, and that's if Christ died for one, they are freely Justified by His Grace through redemption that is in Christ Jesus. The carnal religionist insists that faith is a condition for this free justification, but that's a false teaching that detracts from redemption.
Its also Justification freely, notice Rom 3:24
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
This is an unbelievable result from redemption, that religionist cant accept, and that's if Christ died for one, they are freely Justified by His Grace through redemption that is in Christ Jesus. The carnal religionist insists that faith is a condition for this free justification, but that's a false teaching that detracts from redemption.
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Nanja
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Amen to #13 and #14 !
beloved57
False teaching indeed which detracts from redemption and gives glory to flesh !
The Elect of God however, having Redemption, Forgiveness and being Justified by the Blood of Christ, remains a mystery to them until it's revealed to God-given Faith in New Birth Gal. 5:22.
beloved57
False teaching indeed which detracts from redemption and gives glory to flesh !
The Elect of God however, having Redemption, Forgiveness and being Justified by the Blood of Christ, remains a mystery to them until it's revealed to God-given Faith in New Birth Gal. 5:22.
Nanja
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Oh praise be! we are indeed redeemed by Him...yes!...He does it all...
And then helps us to follow Him...to love JUST AS He loved us...
we are never sinless on our own but IN HIM we sin less...because of what He did...we WANT to...MORE LIKE Him...less like our former selves or the world...
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Yes also read verses 25-26 how God passed over previous sin with the blood...kinda like passover when they were passed over in Egypt by His Wrath for having believed...they were actually saved without the Law revealed...what Grace
He saved them...and because of a Promise to their father Abraham...NOTHING they did...well except believe...have faith...oh and accept that redemption...oh and publicly declare that faith with blood on their doorsteps to signal they have faith...they believe
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beloved57
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Its redemption from death. Those Christ died for have been delivered from, redeemed from death. Theres three types:
Spiritual, Physical, and Eternal. The reason being, as was displayed earlier, redemption is from the penalty of sin. The word apolutrósis:
everywhere in the N. T. metaphorically, viz. deliverance effected through the death of Christ from the retributive wrath of a holy God and the merited penalty of sin:
Death is but the penalty of sin see Rom 6:23a
Death is an enemy, Speaking of physical death Paul writes about its destruction 1 Cor 15:26
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
Hosea 13:14
will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.
Now though this may refer to physical death, it cant be limited to it, Christ death redeems all for whom He died from all death that has to do with the result of their sins.
Frankly speaking its a serious slight on Christs redeeming death to teach that anyone He died for remains Spiritually dead, goes into the second death, or who dies physically under Gods condemnation and never rises out of physical death glorified with Christ.
Spiritual, Physical, and Eternal. The reason being, as was displayed earlier, redemption is from the penalty of sin. The word apolutrósis:
everywhere in the N. T. metaphorically, viz. deliverance effected through the death of Christ from the retributive wrath of a holy God and the merited penalty of sin:
Death is but the penalty of sin see Rom 6:23a
Death is an enemy, Speaking of physical death Paul writes about its destruction 1 Cor 15:26
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
Hosea 13:14
will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.
Now though this may refer to physical death, it cant be limited to it, Christ death redeems all for whom He died from all death that has to do with the result of their sins.
Frankly speaking its a serious slight on Christs redeeming death to teach that anyone He died for remains Spiritually dead, goes into the second death, or who dies physically under Gods condemnation and never rises out of physical death glorified with Christ.
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beloved57
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nanja
Exactly:
1 Cor 2:9-10
[FONT="]9 But as it is written, Eye[natural] hath not seen, nor ear[natural] heard, neither have entered into the heart[natural] of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.[/FONT]
[FONT="]10But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.[/FONT]
Exactly:
1 Cor 2:9-10
[FONT="]9 But as it is written, Eye[natural] hath not seen, nor ear[natural] heard, neither have entered into the heart[natural] of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.[/FONT]
[FONT="]10But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.[/FONT]