What was the appearance of the three [LORD,lords] who visited Abraham.

[oatmeal]

I asked you:

You: <NO ANSWER>

You not answering that question is you saying you don't know that God can see Himself, and that, just the same, you don’t know that He cannot. And thus, by your not ruling out the affirmative, you show that you are willing to call God "invisible" even if He can see Himself. Which is an admission by you that someone or something can be simultaneously invisible and seen.


Which scripture? Genesis 1:1 says "In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth."

Who am I to know if God can see himself? Does spirit have eyes, literal eyes? I believe what God's word teaches, not what it does not teach. God is spirit. Should I believe what you think? or what God says? I do not know if God can see himself because Scripture does not say one way or another, as far as I know. Why should I try to tell God what truth is? Evidently, you think men can say what truth is but God cannot.

Are you really that arrogant? I seem you would have willfully and gladly eaten the fruit like Adam did in the Garden.

Now, since God is spirit and all knowing, He would be fully aware of himself in every situation.

 

[oatmeal]

If you think God can't see Himself, then, do you imagine He couldn't see anything until He created the heaven and the earth?

Where does God state one way or another that God can or cannot see himself

The issue is also another verse, another truth to consider.

1 John 4:12
No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

No man has seen God at any time. That verse does not say that God cannot see himself or anything else that he wants to see

Invisible to who?

Colossians 1:15
Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

1 Timothy 1:17
Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Hebrews 11:27
By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible.

God is telling who, that He is invisible? Does he need to teach himself, or is he teaching humans?

 

[7djengo7]

Who am I to know if God can see himself?

Where does God state one way or another that God can or cannot see himself

Here you are admitting you do not know that God cannot see Himself. By which you admit that, when you call God "invisible", you do not mean by it that He cannot, at least, be seen by Himself.

Yet, when you wrote this:

Hebrews 11:27 does not say He literally saw the invisible God for seeing something or someone who is invisible would mean that the invisible would no longer be invisible.

you used the word "invisible" in such manner as to say that for God to see Himself would be for God to "no longer be invisible".

If God is/can be seen by Himself, then He is/can be seen. And, if God is/can be seen, then God is visible. Wouldn't you agree?

Are you of a mind to think that, because God, in His Word, uses the word "invisible" to describe Himself, then the word "visible" should not be used to describe Him?

 

[7djengo7]

Should I believe what you think?

Yes! Absolutely! Of course! What a stupid question!

And, while you're at it,

 

[7djengo7]

Should I believe what you think?

I should add that, in a sense, I suppose I'm with you in that I'm not certain whether or not the Father sees/can see Himself. I can't say I think He can/does see Himself; yet also, I can't say I think He cannot/does not see Himself. (Although, to me, it seems maybe a bit more approaching wrongness to think He can't see Himself.) But, the point I've tried to make is that to say you don't know that He cannot see Himself, while also maintaining that (as the Bible says) He is invisible, is to admit openness to an idea of some sort of compatibility between His being invisible and His being seen (if, in fact, he can/does see Himself).

 

[Nick M]

I began to consider what was most important is that God gave his presence A NAME

Watching Ray Comfort videos has made me decide to think more on the specific command to not say his name in vain, and what it meas to do it. It means to do it without a good reason. He isn't your next door neighbor, he is the creator of the universe and we owe him divine respect in all ways.