What mans religion teaches about faith and repentance !

[beloved57]

Are Faith and Repentance evangelical truths that must be preached ? The answer is absolutely yes, Jesus said Lk 24:47

And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

So its no doubt that sound Gospel preaching includes repentance. However where men go wrong is when they make repentance and or faith conditions for Justification before God ! They say that men and women for whom Christ died are not justified, made righteous before God without them ! They are in essence saying that everything Christ did for them in His Person and Work fell short in making them righteous/justified before God.

 

[beloved57]

In Gospel preaching, instead of faith/repentance being conditions man must perform in order for God to justify them or make them righteous, they are to be acknowledged and received as Spiritual Blessings from Christ being risen as their Savor, along with remission of sins, as Peter points out in his sermon Acts 5:31

Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.


The greek word give is the the verb didōmi and means:

1. to give something to someone
   
   
   
   1. of one's own accord to give one something, to his advantage
      
      
      
      1. to bestow a gift

1. to supply, furnish, necessary things
   
   The giving of these things are necessary in constituting Christ a Savior from sin !
   
   Faith and Repentance are necessary furnishings to do the will of God !

 

[MennoSota]

Indeed. Faith and repentance are caused by God making a person alive in Christ.
Those whom God chooses to make alive in Christ will hear the message of reconciliation and by faith they will repent of their sins.
The order is such:
1) The ambassador shares the Gospel of reconciliation with all.
2) God chooses to give life to some so they can hear the Gospel.
3) God adopts these persons and saves them from death.
4) God gives these adopted children the gift of faith.
5) God reveals sin in the adopted child's life.
6) God moves His child to repentance.
7) God's adopted child repents and begins the path of sanctification whereby God disciplines his children to make them in His image.
8) God’s child stands before the throne of God, justified by Jesus atoning sacrifice for the sins which the child has committed.
9) By God's grace we are saved.

 

[beloved57]

Now some might say that the verse Acts 5:31 doesn't say anything about Christ the Savior giving Faith, but only Repentance to Israel [Gods Elect People]. Thats no problem however because Gospel evangelical repentance contains faith, for this repentance acknowledges, embraces the Truth 2 Tim 2:25

In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth

Notice that the word give here is the same word give in Acts 5:31 when its stated God gives repentance to Israel, but here in the 2 Tim 2:25 verse repentance is clarified in that it gives the acknowledging of the Truth.

I Titus 1:1 its recognized as the Faith of Gods Elect

Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;

So contrary to what mans religion teaches, that faith and repentance are conditions men perform in order to get justified or righteous before God, they are gracious gifts given by the Savior when He saves them, wherein they evidence Christ has saved them !

 

[Nanja]

Now some might say that the verse Acts 5:31 doesn't say anything about Christ the Savior giving Faith, but only Repentance to Israel [Gods Elect People]. Thats no problem however because Gospel evangelical repentance contains faith, for this repentance acknowledges, embraces the Truth 2 Tim 2:25

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Notice that the word give here is the same word give in Acts 5:31 when its stated God gives repentance to Israel, but here in the 2 Tim 2:25 verse repentance is clarified in that it gives the acknowledging of the Truth.

I Titus 1:1 its recognized as the Faith of Gods Elect

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Amen to all 3 parts !


Faith and Repentance are Gifts given by God particularly to all His Elect Titus 1:1; the same Faith which is a fruit of the Spirit Gal. 5:22 that honors God and pleases Him Heb. 11:1, 6.

But man's religion falsely teaches that they are works a person does to make himself right with God, but scripture is clear that nothing an unregenerate man does can please God Rom. 8:7-8.

But the True Gospel preaches that God, through Jesus Christ their Saviour GIVES Faith and Repentance to God's Elect, the Israel of God !

 

[beloved57]

When religionist make faith or repentance or anything else for that matter conditions man must meet in order to get saved or justified before God they do disparage the death and blood of Christ ! What they are saying whether they know it or not is Christs blood alone was inadequate to Justify them for whom it was shed. This does contradict Rom 5:9

Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

 

[Nanja]

When religionist make faith or repentance or anything else for that matter conditions man must meet in order to get saved or justified before God they do disparage the death and blood of Christ ! What they are saying whether they know it or not is Christs blood alone was inadequate to Justify them for whom it was shed. This does contradict Rom 5:9

[FONT="]Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.[/FONT]

Exactly Brother, false religion is guilty of blasphemy against the Power of the Blood of Christ to save all for whom it was shed.

 

[beloved57]

When religionist make faith or repentance or anything else for that matter conditions man must meet in order to get saved or justified before God they are introducing works into the equation. These acts or human actions become equal determinants for Salvation/Justification which robs Christ of His Glory and gives prideful man an occasion to boast !

 

[beloved57]

When religionist make faith or repentance or anything else for that matter conditions man must meet in order to get saved or justified before God they are flat out denying the effectualness of His death/blood !

 

[beloved57]

When religionist make faith or repentance or anything else for that matter conditions man must meet in order to get saved or justified before God they are denying that Salvation/Justification is a free gift of Gods Grace. Thats in contradiction to Rom 3:24

24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Rom 5:16

16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

The free gift is unto Justification !

 

[Nanja]

When religionist make faith or repentance or anything else for that matter conditions man must meet in order to get saved or justified before God they are introducing works into the equation. These acts or human actions become equal determinants for Salvation/Justification which robs Christ of His Glory and gives prideful man an occasion to boast !

True indeed ! God has from Everlasting, according to His Eternal Purpose in Christ Eph. 3:11, provided Salvation for all whom the Lamb was Slain for Rev. 13:8.

So a religionist's filthy works of faith, repentance or whatever, are merely works that foster pride in the flesh, but accomplish nothing in God's eyes Rom. 8:8.

 

[beloved57]

True indeed ! God has from Everlasting, according to His Eternal Purpose in Christ Eph. 3:11, provided Salvation for all whom the Lamb was Slain for Rev. 13:8.

So a religionist's filthy works of faith, repentance or whatever, are merely works that foster pride in the flesh, but accomplish nothing in God's eyes Rom. 8:8.

Amen Sister and Happy Thanksgiving to you and family.

 

[Nanja]

When religionist make faith or repentance or anything else for that matter conditions man must meet in order to get saved or justified before God they are flat out denying the [FONT="] [/FONT][/COLOR][URL="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/effectualness"]effectualness[/URL] of His death/blood !

Right, it's akin to saying the human will must cooperate in order to insure that Christ's death / blood is efficacious to save, which is blasphemy !

 

[Nanja]

Amen Sister and Happy Thanksgiving to you and family.

Thank You Brother, and a very Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours

 

[beloved57]

When religionist make faith or repentance or anything else for that matter conditions man must meet in order to get saved or justified before God they are introducing a law principle in Justification. When they present anything as a condition to do to get saved, in which if they dont do it, there is the threat of punishment, but if you do do it there is the promise of reward, eternal life, thats a law principle, the same as under the mosaic law, do and live Lev 18:5

Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the Lord.

They're under the principle of Gal 3:10

10For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

 

[Nanja]

#10

When religionist make faith or repentance or anything else for that matter conditions man must meet in order to get saved or justified before God they are denying that Salvation/Justification is a free gift of Gods Grace. Thats in contradiction to Rom 3:24

24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Rom 5:16

16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

The free gift is unto Justification !

When religionist make faith or repentance or anything else for that matter conditions man must meet in order to get saved or justified before God they are introducing a law principle in Justification. When they present anything as a condition to do to get saved, in which if they dont do it, there is the threat of punishment, but if you do do it there is the promise of reward, eternal life, thats a law principle, the same as under the mosaic law, do and live Lev 18:5

[FONT="]Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, [/FONT][/COLOR][B]and my judgments: which if a man [B]do, he shall [B]live in them: I am the Lord.[/B][/B][/B]

They're under the principle of Gal 3:10

[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][B]10[/B][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT="]For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.[/FONT]

Amen Brother, religionists deny being justified freely by the free gift of God's Grace alone Rom. 3:24; 5:16 and instead persist in the performance of a religious duty or obedience ritual of their own faith or believing which they believe constitutes them justified before God.

 

[beloved57]

Primarily mans religion says that man must do something or he will be lost, that apart from him doing something, salvation isnt possible. All man made religion is under the delusion that they are alive to God, not understanding that by nature we are dead to God. Man was murdered in the garden when he disobeyed God in Adam, and so Jesus called him a murderer Jn 8:44

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Man lost life with God, hes therefore dead to God !

 

[JudgeRightly]

Primarily mans religion says that man must do something or he will be lost, that apart from him doing something, salvation isnt possible.

How about doing something that removes one from the "to be saved" list?

All man made religion is under the delusion that they are alive to God, not understanding that by nature we are dead to God.

That's not what Paul says...

I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died.And the commandment, which was to bring life, I found to bring death.For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it killed me.Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good. - Romans 7:9-12 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans7:9-12&version=NKJV

The law kills, but the spirit brings life.

Paul said "I was alive before the law came." He's referring to the period of time before one reaches the age of accountability (which is different for every person, and some people never reach that age), which is the age at which one is able to recognize what is right and wrong, and chooses, willingly, to do wrong. The LAW is the Knowledge of Good and Evil (where else have we seen that phrase before? Hint: Genesis)

When the law comes, when one reaches the age of accountability, they die, because sin revived...

Wait, revived? Yes, revived, because it was DEAD in them before they reached that age. When was sin made "dead"? When Christ went to the cross!

That means that, since Christ went to the Cross, every person born since that time has been, at first, DEAD to sin, and ALIVE to God, but when they reach the age of accountability, sin revives, and they die, separating them from God.

Man was murdered in the garden when he disobeyed God in Adam,

Adam is responsible for the Fall, but the sin of Adam has been wiped from the slate of every human being other than Adam. It is on the sin of every individual that one goes to Hell, and NOT of Adam's.

Punishing the children for the sins of the father is WICKED, and God Himself condemns it!

and so Jesus called him a murderer

No, Jesus called Satan a murderer.

Note the "your father the devil," before the second "your father."

Jn 8:44

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

This is referring specifically to Satan, NOT Adam.

Man lost life with God, hes therefore dead to God!

Not according to Paul, as per above.

 

[beloved57]

When it comes to mans religion, salvation is contingent not solely on God and what has been accomplished by the person and work of Jesus Christ for His People, but it depends on how a sinner responds, so it all rests with the sinner, See Prov 14:12

There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

 

[JudgeRightly]

When it comes to mans religion,

AKA, according to you, anything that is not Calvinism.

salvation is contingent not solely on God

Of course it's solely on God.

Just like the response-ability is solely on man to accept or reject God's offer of salvation.

Don't conflate the two.

and what has been accomplished by the person and work of Jesus Christ for His People, but it depends on how a sinner responds, so it all rests with the sinner,

False, as I just explained above.

God provided a means of salvation. He is solely responsible for that. Man is not.

However, God is not responsible for man accepting or rejecting that offer of salvation.

Prov 14:12

There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

Which has literally nothing to do with what you just said.