musterion
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Birds of a feather.
ECT WHAT JOHN 3:16 REALLY MEANS TO US TODAY !!
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Birds of a feather.
dodge
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Yep, some do NOT destroy the context to stay in a man made lie.
Hi and when you know explain to all that WORLD / KOMOS means The universe 168 times , or circle of the Earth or Inhabitants and ETC , ETC !!
The Greek for WHATSOEVER / PAS means , ALL 748 times , Every one , or Any or All manner and ETC, ETC any one can check the Greek text and find out !!
dan p
drbrumley
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dodge
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lol, care to give the context of Paul teaching on repentance which most in MAD say is not for the B.O.C. ?
Acts 20:21 testifying to Jews, and also to Greeks, repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
The bottom line is those in MAD are following other men who changed the context of scripture to invent MAD.
Lon
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Try this: Ask your fellow MADists if anyone but them can be saved. The answer will likely surprise you. Ask a fellow MAD or two if they believe I am saved by my testimony. That will expedite this conversation I think.
Nang
TOL Subscriber
This definition of kosmos would include cows. Did God send His Son to save cows?
The qualifier is "whosoever believes" will never perish; (not every earthly creature!)
Hi and your salvation message is whosoever believes and these , by you reasoning are the TERMS on how people are saved today ??
Tell me you are KIDDING ??
Your CONTEXT is wat OFF and Eph 2:8 and Rom 10:9 are to taken out of my bible ?
Explain what 1 Cor 2:14 means ??
dan p
Nang
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Justification comes by faith, alone. The Just shall live by faith. Romans 1:16-17
The context is not the "kosmos." The context is John 3:1-8.
It means that no sinner can believe unless and until they are born again from above, by the invisible power of the Holy Spirit. John 3:1-8
And John 3:16 PROMISES that these born again souls, WILL believe unto everlasting life, only because they have been born of the Spirit of Christ. I Corinthians 2:10-16
Lon
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That those who put their trust in the Lord Jesus Christ and His saving work, will not be put to shame.
Romans 10:9,10,11
I was dead in trespasses in sin. Christ died and rose to save the lost. I believe I am entirely saved by God's grace alone, by faith alone. Ephesians 2:8,9,10
Lon
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I think you meant a question mark on your last sentence? The answer is: to expedite the conversation with Dan P. He may not believe me, but perhaps he will believe you and others who are MAD. If not, he can believe what he likes, I was just trying to get him to realize that he judging me unsaved is not because of his understanding of MAD. Some MAD, for some reason, do not believe anybody else is saved. Dan P believes unless one is dispensational, they cannot be saved. It is an odd belief but there are a lot of myopic believers on TOL. Some Calvinists believe only Calvinists are saved too. I disagree with them. He is able to save to the uttermost those who are perishing, despite any of our stupidity or intelligence. Hebrews 7:25
SaulToPaul 2
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musterion
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Our problem is not with what he said. Our problem is with how people today usually define repent.
dodge
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Bottom line is Paul preached repentance !
Scripturally repentance is to turn from sin.
Repentance TOWARD God is to turn to Christ
dodge
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Not to bright are you ? You do not get to re-define nor change the meaning of words.
Biblical repentance is to turn from sin. You might want to actually read a bible before you comment.