It had everything to do with their behavior.
But, because the Messiah was promised from the line of Judah, God did not divorce the House of Judah.
ECT What is the true root objection to MAD?
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It had everything to do with their behavior.
But, because the Messiah was promised from the line of Judah, God did not divorce the House of Judah.
heir
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there's no mistaking it.
heir
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The preterist tet is here attempting to overthrow the faith of some.
2 Timothy 2:17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
2 Timothy 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
You can't touch mine (Galatians 2:20 KJV).
2 Timothy 2:17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
2 Timothy 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
You can't touch mine (Galatians 2:20 KJV).
From Strong's Concordance:
apostasia: defection, revolt
Yes it has.
Yes it did.
Er, no.
Paul understood the NC. Pau's teachings were prophetic regarding the NC. Paul understood that believers in the NC would instantly be in the presence of the Lord upon death.
I wouldn't expect anything else from a Darby follower.
musterion
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Well, not believing in the sealing of the believer by God explains his love of works salvation, anyway. That never quite added up for me before now regarding Tet, but now I see that's how he's going to save himself.
How much you want to bet that's his REAL problem with MAD. Kinda like the o.p. says.
How much you want to bet that's his REAL problem with MAD. Kinda like the o.p. says.
Looks like heir is embarrassed for not knowing that Acts 13:46 is in the Bible.
heir
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No wonder he's so bothered by MAD! He hasn't any good news!
You're getting more desperate.
Salvation is by faith and faith alone.
No, the real problem with MAD is how you guys look to the flesh. You guys claim that God still looks to the flesh by claiming that one day in the future God has a separate plan for a fleshly people.
heir
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Amen! And thank God we're saved by His faith and finished work in our place (Titus 3:5-7 KJV)!
In the New Covenant there is no difference between Jew and Gentile.
You MADists deny the NC because you look to the flesh.
You are followers of a man (John Nelson Darby)
Written BEFORE 70AD.
Learn how to rightly divide, and give up following John Nelson Darby, and you won't be so confused.
musterion
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No. Salvation is by GRACE, received THROUGH faith.
To say it is BY FAITH is a whole different message but you obviously don't perceive.
musterion
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So is Chrysostom.
No, she looks to Christ, in Whom she has been sealed.
Since you can't claim that sealing for yourself, your flesh is all you have to look to to keep you saved.
I was contrasting faith and works because of your false claim that I adhere to:"his love of works salvation"
(Rom 3:28) For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.
Try to pay attention to your own posts.
musterion
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musterion
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You said salvation is BY FAITH. That is false. You are false.
heir
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Amen! Salvation is by grace through faith; and that not of ourselves! And if it's not of ourselves it is not through our faith, but His! It is the gift of God! And just to make sure all you closet Catholic gospel of Christ perverters were even thinking about sssssslipping YOUR good works in there; it says plain as day "not of works, lest any man should boast"!
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.