how did you get saved?
and
the predestination crowd says they were elect from the beginning
there is no becoming elect
ECT What is Predestination?
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how did you get saved?
and
the predestination crowd says they were elect from the beginning
there is no becoming elect
"Wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow."
Psalm 51:7
The Old-Fashioned Way
They call me old-fashioned because I believe
That the Bible is God’s holy Word,
That Jesus, who lived among men long ago,
Is divine, and the Christ of God.
My sin was old-fashioned,
My guilt was old-fashioned,
God’s love was old-fashioned, I know;
And the way I was saved was the old-fashioned way,
Through the blood that makes whiter than snow.
Old-fashioned, because I believe and accept
Only what has been spoken from Heav’n;
Old-fashioned because at the cross I was saved,
At the cross had my sins forgiv’n.
Old-fashioned, because I am bound to do right,
To walk in the straight narrow way;
Because I have given my whole life to God,
Old-fashioned because I pray.
Old-fashioned, because I am looking above
To Jesus, my glorified Lord;
Because I believe He is coming again,
Fulfilling His holy Word.
Psalm 51:7
The Old-Fashioned Way
They call me old-fashioned because I believe
That the Bible is God’s holy Word,
That Jesus, who lived among men long ago,
Is divine, and the Christ of God.
My sin was old-fashioned,
My guilt was old-fashioned,
God’s love was old-fashioned, I know;
And the way I was saved was the old-fashioned way,
Through the blood that makes whiter than snow.
Old-fashioned, because I believe and accept
Only what has been spoken from Heav’n;
Old-fashioned because at the cross I was saved,
At the cross had my sins forgiv’n.
Old-fashioned, because I am bound to do right,
To walk in the straight narrow way;
Because I have given my whole life to God,
Old-fashioned because I pray.
Old-fashioned, because I am looking above
To Jesus, my glorified Lord;
Because I believe He is coming again,
Fulfilling His holy Word.
Dialogos
Well-known member
So, you are free to offer, and defend, another.
Too true.DR said:
Au contraire, I am not left to my own devices. See John 16:13.DR said:
Language communicates experience, it is not based on experience. Were that the case, every person would have their own language as no two persons experience reality identically.DR said:
Communication has its faults, don't get me wrong, but it has an objective quality that our interpretations of our experiences don't have.
Again, you are free to offer an alternative interpretation. I don't expect anyone to trust my interpretation because it is my interpretation. I submit my interpretation for others to review and make up their own minds whether it accords with what the biblical testimony says or not.DR said:
You can play the "That's just your interpretation" game all you like. It doesn't erase the contrast that bible believers see between the veracity of God's revealed word and the tenuousness of our knowledge based on human experience.
If you would like to prioritize your experiences over biblical revelation rather than prioritize biblical revelation over your experiences you are welcome to do so.
But be honest about how you arrive at your conclusions. If your theological conclusions on this matter are based on how your theory accords to your experience rather than God's Word, then just say so.
If this isn't the case, then whether or not your experiences prop up your theology are incidental and largely unimportant.
No, it's a response, now do likewise, and not just repeat yourself.
BTW, NOBODY said HATH in the Bible.
Genesis 3:1 KJV
Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
1Mind1Spirit
Literal lunatic
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Isn't it strange? I was just thinking of that very scripture verse when I originally said that openness conforms with everyday experience whilst Calvinists have to explain away those experiences. I was really inspired by the Holy Spirit to say that.
So I must be right OK?
You are making a very basic mistake here. You haven't taken into consideration that our interpretations of our experiences are flawed. For example you see the sun and you worship it as a god. That proves that your interpretations of your experiences are in error and your whole methodology is useless.
I got that from you. You said it a couple of weeks ago, right?
is this buyer's remorse?
but you are trying to give me ownership of what you wrote
I saw you write, theres nothing we can do about it , maybe somebody can pull that post cause i dont care what you say
nikolai_42
Well-known member
You want me to concede that the scriptures I quoted are hyperbolic. I see no reason to do so and am trying to explain why. Why do believe they are hyperbole?
would like to hear more about this enemy
I allow myself to change my mind, daily, according to the spirit at any present moment at all times . Thats how I move with the spirit. Go ahead and quote me but all past is outdated. Thats where I have no freewill. I chose according to what is arranged around me. Don't be too late. Our conversations may be no good.
Because they use hyperbolic language!
If you don't see that, then I can't help you. One has to understand basic grammar if one is to read the Bible with any kind of productive comprehension. It's not a matter of your concession, more than it is a matter of recognition.