What Is And What Is Not The Gospel

[ClimateSanity]

The gospel is not: Satan has out-witted us and many sin and cannot obey, so I will make a new command where you can scratch all that was written before about obeying God and now NO ONE has to obey anything.

Romans 8:7

Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

The law is spiritual. It isn't like a traffic law. You obey a stop sign by stopping at an intersection. God says the whole is summed up in loving God with your whole heart and soul and your neighbor as yourself.

Try obeying that. The mind set on the flesh believes he obeys that by going to church, tithing, not drinking, cussing or smoking or adultery or killing or lying or stealing.

The law is spiritual. You cannot obey it in the flesh. You must first be saved and then walk according to the spirit. This means quit looking at your behavior as evidence you either are or are not obeying God. If you are in the flesh, you will set up an arbitrary set of rules you obey and think you are obeying God. Obeying God is much more than a set of rules you memorize and keep in your own flesh.

 

[Epoisses]

Romans 8:7

Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

The law is spiritual. It isn't like a traffic law. You obey a stop sign by stopping at an intersection. God says the whole is summed up in loving God with your whole heart and soul and your neighbor as yourself.

Try obeying that. The mind set on the flesh believes he obeys that by going to church, tithing, not drinking, cussing or smoking or adultery or killing or lying or stealing.

The law is spiritual. You cannot obey it in the flesh. You must first be saved and then walk according to the spirit. This means quit looking at your behavior as evidence you either are or are not obeying God. If you are in the flesh, you will set up an arbitrary set of rules you obey and think you are obeying God. Obeying God is much more than a set of rules you memorize and keep in your own flesh.

Clap, clap, clap. Amen, amen & amen!!!

 

[jamie]

If you are in the flesh, you will set up an arbitrary set of rules you obey and think you are obeying God. Obeying God is much more than a set of rules you memorize and keep in your own flesh.

But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. (Romans 8:9)​

 

[beloved57]

The gospel is NOT have faith but make sure you do nothing.

The gospel is NOT you cannot believe and obey until you are saved.

False doctrines come from a misunderstanding about what Paul says about not of works.

The works that used to save were the ceremonial/purification works the Jews used to have to do.

Paul never ever tells anyone that they do not have to obey.

A lost person can not believe the Gospel because it is hidden from them 2 Cor 4:3-4!

So one must first be saved before they can believe the Gospel.

 

[Epoisses]

So one must first be saved before they can believe the Gospel.

LOL. so dumb!

 

[God's Truth]

The verse says you are SAVED by grace through faith NOT through works. Why do you change scripture to be a slave to works ?


No one works for a gift !

Eph 2:8
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

The Jews used to have to work at cleaning themselves---that is the works we no longer have to do! Not no longer obey! That is ludicrous.

God gives the gift to whomever He chooses, and He chooses those who obey.

 

[God's Truth]

Romans 8:7

Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

That scripture is about those with a CARNAL MIND.

NOT everyone only has a carnal mind.

Those who do have a carnal mind---they can never please God.

A carnal mind means a mind only wanting to please the flesh.

We are flesh and spirit. Some people are more spiritually minded than others.

The law is spiritual. It isn't like a traffic law. You obey a stop sign by stopping at an intersection. God says the whole is summed up in loving God with your whole heart and soul and your neighbor as yourself.

Try obeying that. The mind set on the flesh believes he obeys that by going to church, tithing, not drinking, cussing or smoking or adultery or killing or lying or stealing.

The law is spiritual. You cannot obey it in the flesh.

Just listen to the nonsense you are saying.
We have to obey in the flesh, people can obey in the flesh, and people did and do obey in the flesh.

You must first be saved and then walk according to the spirit.

You will not be saved if you do not obey.

The Holy Spirit is NOT given but to those who do obey.


Acts 5:32 We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him.”

This means quit looking at your behavior as evidence you either are or are not obeying God.

Paul says to examine yourselves.

I know one thing for sure, is if I have to examine myself, then I am not living through the Spirit.

If you are in the flesh, you will set up an arbitrary set of rules you obey and think you are obeying God. Obeying God is much more than a set of rules you memorize and keep in your own flesh.

Have you ever thought about this harder, about what God's WORD means? It means everything that God says...it is His WORD. Now think about that and read your disrespectful attitude about God's commands.

 

[God's Truth]

A lost person can not believe the Gospel because it is hidden from them 2 Cor 4:3-4!

So one must first be saved before they can believe the Gospel.

God does NOT save those who do not believe.

There is no scripture anywhere that says God saves unbelievers. That is insane according to Peter; see 2 Peter 3:16, and 17.

 

[beloved57]

LOL. so dumb!

You can call it what you want, it chages nothing !

 

[beloved57]

God does NOT save those who do not believe.

There is no scripture anywhere that says God saves unbelievers. That is insane.

Those lost cannot believe the Gospel 2 Cor 4:3-4

 

[God's Truth]

Those lost cannot believe the Gospel 2 Cor 4:3-4

Anyone who wants to be saved can search and find.

If God saved unbelievers, as you erroneously teach, then why would God tell the saved to seek and then they will find?

You need to examine your unstable beliefs.

 

[Robert Pate]

Those lost cannot believe the Gospel 2 Cor 4:3-4

"So then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God" Romans 10:17.

The word of God is the Gospel. On the day of Pentecost over 8000 Jews, some of which had participated in the crucifixion of Christ heard Peter preach the Gospel for the very first time and were saved.

The Gospel gave birth to the New Testament church.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

So one must first be saved before they can believe the Gospel.

That's called, "Putting the horse before the cart." You poor soul. You actually believe the false doctrine you spread.

 

[beloved57]

"So then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God" Romans 10:17.

The word of God is the Gospel. On the day of Pentecost over 8000 Jews, some of which had participated in the crucifixion of Christ heard Peter preach the Gospel for the very first time and were saved.

The Gospel gave birth to the New Testament church.

A lost person can not believe the Gospel because it is hidden from them. That's why you don't believe it.

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[Robert Pate]

A lost person can not believe the Gospel because it is hidden from them 2 Cor 4:3-4!

So one must first be saved before they can believe the Gospel.

Right, they are saved by hearing and believing the Gospel, Ephesians 1:13.

Now, are you going to call Paul a liar?

 

[beloved57]

Right, they are saved by hearing and believing the Gospel, Ephesians 1:13.

Now, are you going to call Paul a liar?

Those that are lost can't believe the Gospel because it is hidden from them and their minds are blinded 2 Cor 4:3-4

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[Nanja]

Right, they are saved by hearing and believing the Gospel, Ephesians 1:13.

Now, are you going to call Paul a liar?

The key words in Eph. 1:13 are: "In Him you also trusted, after that you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation".


So, first a person trusts, which is Faith, given in New Birth Gal. 5:22, then they can "hear", not just audibly, but Spiritually! God's Word is Spiritual, for God is Spirit!



One must be "of God" to Hear God's Words" John 8:43, 47. To be "of God" means to be Born of God or Born of the Spirit John 3:6.


You have not been given understanding of the scriptures because the Gospel is hid to them that are Lost!



Trusting in Christ is having Faith in Him, which is a Fruit of the Holy Spirit given to a person when they are born again Gal. 5:22. Outside of New Birth, there is no kind of faith that can please God Rom. 8:8!


So you see, to the ones Christ died for, His Sheep John 10:11, 15, He sends them the Gospel of their Salvation to inform them that they are Saved.


But the Gospel isn't sent to them that are Lost Mat. 13:38-40 because they never had Salvation.

No one can hear the word of Truth which is Spiritual unless he is first given Spiritual Life!


John 8:47
He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.


They were cursed / condemned Mat. 25:41 from the beginning: They believed not [had no Faith] because Christ did not die for them, thus they were condemned already John 3:18, 36!


Antichrist religion always contorts the scriptures to give the false impression that salvation is available to all men without exception. But that's a lie!

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[Robert Pate]

The key words in Eph. 1:13 are: "In Him you also trusted, after that you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation".


So, first a person trusts, which is Faith, given in New Birth Gal. 5:22, then they can "hear", not just audibly, but Spiritually! God's Word is Spiritual, for God is Spirit!



One must be "of God" to Hear God's Words" John 8:43, 47. To be "of God" means to be Born of God or Born of the Spirit John 3:6.


You have not been given understanding of the scriptures because the Gospel is hid to them that are Lost!



Trusting in Christ is having Faith in Him, which is a Fruit of the Holy Spirit given to a person when they are born again Gal. 5:22. Outside of New Birth, there is no kind of faith that can please God Rom. 8:8!


So you see, to the ones Christ died for, His Sheep John 10:11, 15, He sends them the Gospel of their Salvation to inform them that they are Saved.


But the Gospel isn't sent to them that are Lost Mat. 13:38-40 because they never had Salvation.

No one can hear the word of Truth which is Spiritual unless he is first given Spiritual Life!


John 8:47
He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.


They were cursed / condemned Mat. 25:41 from the beginning: They believed not [had no Faith] because Christ did not die for them, thus they were condemned already John 3:18, 36!


Antichrist religion always contorts the scriptures to give the false impression that salvation is available to all men without exception. But that's a lie!

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Your doctrine is anti-grace, anti-Gospel, anti-Bible, anti-Christ and anti-God.

In the judgment you might be better off to be an atheist.

 

[Nanja]

Your doctrine is anti-grace, anti-Gospel, anti-Bible, anti-Christ and anti-God.

In the judgment you might be better off to be an atheist.

You may as well be, for you believe in a god of your own darkened understanding.


But the God I know and serve, as testified of in the scriptures, has given Grace exclusively to His Elect in Christ before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9. They were sanctified / set apart from the rest of humanity to be Holy and without blame before Him in Love Eph. 1:3-4: His Chosen Seed, a Peculiar People 1 Pet. 2:9!

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[Robert Pate]

You may as well be, for you believe in a god of your own darkened understanding.


But the God I know and serve, as testified of in the scriptures, has given Grace exclusively to His Elect in Christ before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9. They were sanctified / set apart from the rest of humanity to be Holy and without blame before Him in Love Eph. 1:3-4: His Chosen Seed, a Peculiar People 1 Pet. 2:9!

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The God that you know is not the God of the Bible.

The God of the Bible Loves the world and sends his Son into the world to save the world, John 3:16.

Your God is a mean, unjust, unmerciful, unrighteous tyrant.

You can't have faith in this kind of a God.