Jacob,
I guess I just have this feeling that you're aren't trying to be difficult and that you come to this position of yours in some kind of intellectually honest way and so I keep having to give you another chance. Maybe I'm just a glutton for punishment but in any case, I have a question for you.
Please try to just answer it. It's not a trap or a trick question. I'm just asking because I'm trying to figure you out and attempting to get you to see where I and several other are coming from. Ready? Here it goes...
Was it wrong (immoral, unjust, unrighteous, whatever term you want to use) to murder someone before God said "Thou shalt not murder."?
If so, why?