What do you not understand wit5h theswe verses?

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The penalty for sin is spiritual death, not physical death. Anyone can die physically but that accomplishes nothing.

Jesus said, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?” which is translated, 'My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me'?"

If Jesus did not die spiritually then God did not forsake him if he still lived.

That is evil. Jesus never died Spiritually.

Jesus was fulfilling scripture when he said that.

It is merely about dying in the flesh, not in the Spirit.
 

jamie

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Will you ever die spiritually?

I don't have to, Jesus did it for me.

Had his sacrifice not been flawless he would not have been resurrected. Jesus not only laid his life on the line, he laid his eternity on the line.

That is courage unequaled by anyone.
 

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A person would have to deny many scriptures to believe we do not have spirits that live on after the death of our bodies.

Jesus did not live gain until His resurrection from the dead.

Jesus returns to raise His saints from the dead.

When one is dead, they are not alive.

1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

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But He is God, He was God when He was in the pillar of cloud, He was God when He was in the pillar of fire, He was God when He dwelt in the holy of holies....


...He was God when He dwelt in the Lord Jesus Christ.

God came down from Heaven to dwell in Jesus after His baptism by John.

That was the purpose of God raising up a man He could dwell in.(by the Holy Spirit)

2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.



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keypurr

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And when Jesus comes we will be just like him, an express image of our Father.

Our mother produces a physical image of the Father and our Brother produces a spiritual image of our Father.

We will never be the EXPRESS image of God, but we will be in his image. Christ is the ONLY express image. He only was given the fullness of the Father.
 

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But He is God, He was God when He was in the pillar of cloud, He was God when He was in the pillar of fire, He was God when He dwelt in the holy of holies....


...He was God when He dwelt in the Lord Jesus Christ.

I disagree Totton, Jesus was a man who had the express image of God IN him. Jesus was anointed with a FORM of God. God is a spirit so is his true son. Jesus is the body provided for this spirit. Heb 10:5
 

glorydaz

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WHY?

Is the son of the President the President?

You understand the difference between God and the President, don't you? In order for God to come and dwell among us, He had to do things differently than you might be able to imagine.
 

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Jesus did not live gain until His resurrection from the dead.

After Jesus was crucified, he preached to those who were dead, he preached to the spirits in prison, the spirits of those who had died and disobeyed long ago (see 1 Peter 3:18-19). Those people who disobeyed and died before learning of Jesus...Jesus preached the gospel to them, so that they might be judged according to men in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit (1 Peter 4:5-6). For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring us to God, even those who lived and died before Jesus.

Jesus returns to raise His saints from the dead.

When one is dead, they are not alive.

1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

LA

Those scriptures are about a physical resurrection.
 

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God came down from Heaven to dwell in Jesus after His baptism by John.

That was the purpose of God raising up a man He could dwell in.(by the Holy Spirit)

2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.



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Jesus came in the likeness of sinful flesh. He was found in appearance as a man. Jesus was made like a man.


Philippians 2:7 rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.

Philippians 2:8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death-- even death on a cross!

2 Corinthians 8:9 For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor, so that you through his poverty might become rich.

Hebrews 2:17 For this reason he had to be made like them, fully human in every way, in order that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in service to God, and that he might make atonement for the sins of the people

Romans 1:3 regarding his Son, who as to his earthly life was a descendant of David,

Romans 8:3
For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh,
 

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After Jesus was crucified, he preached to those who were dead, he preached to the spirits in prison, the spirits of those who had died and disobeyed long ago (see 1 Peter 3:18-19). Those people who disobeyed and died before learning of Jesus...Jesus preached the gospel to them, so that they might be judged according to men in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit (1 Peter 4:5-6). For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring us to God, even those who lived and died before Jesus.

Jesus was not even born in the time of Noah.

Christ spoke through Noah, a preacher of righteousness.



Those scriptures are about a physical resurrection.

The whole man died that you and I may be wholly in His resurrection likeness.

Otherwise your human spirit is expected to fit a resurrected glorious body.

The human spirit must also die at death or one is not dead, thus denying that Christ really died, which you do.
 

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Jesus was not even born in the time of Noah.

hahahahaha Who said Jesus was born in the time of Noah?

Christ spoke through Noah, a preacher of righteousness.

Where did you get that from? Show the exact scripture. lol


The whole man died that you and I may be wholly in His resurrection likeness.

Otherwise your human spirit is expected to fit a resurrected glorious body.

The human spirit must also die at death or one is not dead, thus denying that Christ really died, which you do.

lol The spirit does not die.
 
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