That may be important, but as to whether God killed animals, or not, to cloth Adam and Eve does not seem so important. Had it been so, then it would have been written.
ECT Understand the Fall of Adam according to Covenant
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That may be important, but as to whether God killed animals, or not, to cloth Adam and Eve does not seem so important. Had it been so, then it would have been written.
Here it is for YOU to open your eyes, ears, heart, and brain.
Genesis 3:21 KJV
(21) Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
Not a peep about killing an animal, spilling it's blood, or skinning it.
It is not there, and if some spirit has told it is, then you are listening to an evil spirit.
Nang
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The very first bloody sacrifice for sin, was performed and offered by God Himself, as type of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ promised.
This is the Gospel.
It is very seriously wrong to discount, dismiss, or refuse to appreciate the bloody atonement God provided A&E in Genesis 3:21.
The point is to not add to scripture what scripture does not say.
dodge
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Ok, I will bite ! Do you suppose God used alien skins or maybe big foot's skin , or maybe HE used the lock nest monsters skin ?
Why do you try to complicate what is obvious in scripture ?
Why do you suppose in the process of time Cain and Able brought 2 different offerings and Cain's was rejected and Able's , who shed the blood of the animal, was accepted. Kinda explains what God used doesn't it unless of course you refuse be taught by scripture ?
glorydaz
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God made man from the dust of the ground....clearly, all things are possible with God.
The blood atonement was our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
You will find no scripture that says the skins GOD covered Adam's nakedness with were from an animal that GOD killed, spilled it's blood, and skinned.
It's not in the story in Genesis, it's not referenced by any other of the bible writers in the OT or the NT that the skins covering Adam's nakedness was from a sacrificed animal that GOD killed, spilled it's blood, and skinned.
It is an assumption that has grown popular, but it is not what scripture says happened.
Nang
TOL Subscriber
Where, then, is the "first believer" named?
Where?
Looks to me like the covenant of grace and promise of Messiah, was made to Eve. Genesis 3:15
I do not understand this at all . . Salvation is dependent solely upon restored reconciliation between man and God, totally apart from any "enmity with the devil" (whatever that means!)
Yes. Eve verbalized faith in the New Covenant promise of a Savior, that would come from her physical seed.
Eh? Cain was brought up by A&E too . . . and only Abel received saving faith.
IOW's A&E were not the source of the salvation of any of their seed, but only a remnant of them were saved by the grace of God, alone.
Nang
TOL Subscriber
It is hard to discuss the light of Truth, with those who are blinded and live in total spiritual darkness and refuse to be taught out of their unbelieving state.
Nang
TOL Subscriber
It is written . . .
Yep.God made man from the dust of the ground....clearly, all things are possible with God.
GOD can make children of Abraham from stones.
Luke 3:8 KJV
(8) Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
Matthew 3:9 KJV
(9) And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
glorydaz
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Then why do you ASSUME God would do what He did not delight in, and what would not take away sins.
Psalm 51:16
For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
Hosea 6:6
For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.
For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
Hosea 6:6
For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.
Heb. 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
glorydaz
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In your notebook at home?
This makes very interesting reading. Much of it seems very instructive, yet some is taken in a past, or historical context. Dave should read all of this, he might make an argument from this?
It's hard for you because you say things that scripture does not say.
You cannot quote a single scripture that says the skins GOD covered Adam's nakedness with were from an animal that GOD killed, spilled it's blood, and skinned.
Not a single one.
Nowhere, not one single place does scripture say that.
Your "light of truth" is not coming from scripture, that's for certain.
glorydaz
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I agree with you. If you read all what AMR linked, it has some deep theological concepts, many I find quite reverent.
Somewhere besides scripture, that's for sure.
This is outrageous to have them claiming something as fact that scripture DOES NOT SAY.
Especially when they can quote no scripture at all that makes the claim the skins GOD covered Adam's nakedness with was from an animal that GOD killed, spilled it's blood, and skinned.
BINGO!
glorydaz
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It's proof of their MO. Either there is no proof, or the proof is jerked out of it's context with claims it says what it doesn't. A verse here, a verse there, and no verse whatsoever. :nono: