Ukraine Crisis

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When Russia said they weren't going to invade Ukraine, is this when you're saying Ukrainians 'should have known better', that Russia was lying, and they should have left then?
 
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When Russia said they weren't going to invade Ukraine, is this when you're saying Ukrainians should have know better, that Russia was lying, and they should have left then?
Yes, when the tens of thousands of troops lined up along their border.
 

Idolater

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Yes, when the tens of thousands of troops lined up along their border.
So Ukrainians were supposed to know that Russia was lying, and that they actually intended to invade and murder innocent Ukrainian women and children instead of, not do that?
 

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So Ukrainians were supposed to know that Russia was lying, and that they actually intended to invade and murder innocent Ukrainian women and children instead of, not do that?
When have the Russians told the truth before?
 

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So Ukrainians were supposed to know that Russia was lying, and that they actually intended to invade and murder innocent Ukrainian women and children instead of, not do that?
Putin will go scorched earth on Ukraine before he lets it fall into the sphere of the EU/NATO. Especially NATO
 

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Jesus said to turn the other cheek.
You have an unworkable interpretation of this passage. Imagine applying your view to a woman being raped. Does a father tell his daughter to not resist the rapist? "Don't resist the evil man, honey. Remember, Jesus said, 'Love your enemy.' If he wants you for one hour, stay with him two."

A slap "on your right cheek" would normally be a back-handed slap such as an insult. A punch to the face would usually land on the left cheek, as most men are right-handed Thus Jesus was not talking about a physical attack.

Jesus was teaching patience, forgiveness, and self control from insults, not pacifism regarding physical attacks.
 

Hoping

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You have an unworkable interpretation of this passage. Imagine applying your view to a woman being raped. Does a father tell his daughter to not resist the rapist? "Don't resist the evil man, honey. Remember, Jesus said, 'Love your enemy.' If he wants you for one hour, stay with him two."

A slap "on your right cheek" would normally be a back-handed slap such as an insult. A punch to the face would usually land on the left cheek, as most men are right-handed Thus Jesus was not talking about a physical attack.

Jesus was teaching patience, forgiveness, and self control from insults, not pacifism regarding physical attacks.
Did Stephen fight back?
Paul?
Silas?
Jesus?
A woman in Christ has her protections from assault...if they heed the words of scripture.
 

Idolater

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Did Stephen fight back?
Paul?
Silas?
Jesus?
A woman in Christ has her protections from assault...if they heed the words of scripture.
You do what you want. But when you judge other Christians for defending our God given rights you sin.
 

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Joe Biden and World War III for Dummies​

BY STEPHEN GREEN MAR 23, 2022 10:33 AM ET

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Who had “Big Mouth Biden Talks His Way into World War III” on their Everything Sucks 2022 Edition bingo card?

As the Ukraine War drags into its fifth week, things aren’t going well for Russia. That isn’t to say Ukraine is winning, but Russia has lost nearly 10,000 men, according to a (since scrubbed) semi-official Russian report, thousands more have been wounded, there are untold numbers of destroyed armored vehicles, trucks, frontline fighters, attack jets and helicopters, and five senior generals (and even more colonels) have been killed.

Perhaps even worse, from the view at the Kremlin, is that Russia’s painfully expensive ten-year military modernization has proven to be a painfully expensive sham.

This is when wise Western leadership — an unfunny joke these days, I know — would be taking Sun Tzu’s ancient advice to heart.

“Build your opponent a golden bridge to retreat across,” he told winning generals.

In other words: When the other guy is effectively beaten but still needs to keep his dignity intact, offer him a gracious way out. You never know how much fight he might have left in him, or what desperate-stupid thing he might try if you insist on pushing him too hard.

Not warring is almost always better than warring, particularly in the case of Ukraine, which is Not. Our. War.

Can you guess what Presidentish Joe Biden is doing instead?

If you guessed, “The most extreme and dangerous exact opposite of what Sun Tzu would have done,” well … BINGO.

 
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