It's quite accurate, in fact, although most people refuse to admit it.
Speak for yourself. It's perfectly possible to oppose corporal punishment for reasons other than fear of your temper.
It's quite accurate, in fact, although most people refuse to admit it.
Speak for yourself. It's perfectly possible to oppose corporal punishment for reasons other than fear of your temper.
Treating my inexperience in raising children of my own as though I couldn't begin to know the first thing about raising children is pathetic.
I'm saying you have nothing to go on to make the claim. I purposely don't say a lot about my children here, and I'm certainly not going to say anything that will expose them to the kind of abuse you routinely dish out. In the meantime, I'll continue to be amused by your pretense.If they had been strong willed you would know. Apparently you don't know the meaning of the term if you think I'm wrong on this.
No. I said I couldn't talk to them, and I'm not going to discuss with you why that was. Again, you go far beyond your ability to discern; you're like Wile E. Coyote right before he drops in midair, only you don't know it yet.What I said was not a generalization. I posted an observation, because you said your parents would not talk to you about their parenting decisions. And, fyi, that is a form of abuse.
I'm sorry for your experiences, I truly am. But that doesn't change the fact that you're talking to someone who has years and years of competent parenting experience on you. If the tables were turned you'd be just as ready to point that out, but with a lot more name-calling.And as far as experience with abuse goes, I certainly have it. My stepmother once had her hands around my throat. She liked to run water while I was in the shower. Sometimes she made me eat my dinner on the floor, like an animal.
I can tell you right now, that is not how to raise a child. But since I have no kids of my own, I must be wrong.
It covers very well when the paddle is not in hand. :up:
Abuse in the name of religion's about as insidious and sick as it gets.
Is that why you say the same thing to everyone who wholeheartedly agrees with me that has raised children of their own?No, it's reality.
You said you don't know if they were strong-willed. I was agreeing with someone who has raised children who told you that you would know if they were. You clearly don't know the meaning of "strong willed."I'm saying you have nothing to go on to make the claim. I purposely don't say a lot about my children here, and I'm certainly not going to say anything that will expose them to the kind of abuse you routinely dish out. In the meantime, I'll continue to be amused by your pretense.
Now you're assuming that I don't know what it's like to be neglected by my parents. Idiot.No. I said I couldn't talk to them, and I'm not going to discuss with you why that was. Again, you go far beyond your ability to discern; you're like Wile E. Coyote right before he drops in midair, only you don't know it yet.
No, I wouldn't. I don't doubt anyone's ability to discern from their own experiences as children.I'm sorry for your experiences, I truly am. But that doesn't change the fact that you're talking to someone who has years and years of competent parenting experience on you. If the tables were turned you'd be just as ready to point that out, but with a lot more name-calling.
IS that why you say the same thing to everyone who wholeheartedly agrees with me that has raised children of their own?
I certainly do. We'll just never know how much the effectiveness of my parenting style overcame a strong will.You said you don't know if they were strong-willed. I was agreeing with someone who has raised children who told you that you would know if they were. You clearly don't know the meaning of "strong willed."
Child.Now you're assuming that I don't know what it's like to be neglected by my parents. Idiot.
That's not the issue of contention, and you well know that. Being a child doesn't give you parenting experience. Parenting does.No, I wouldn't. I don't doubt anyone's ability to discern from their own experiences as children.
yes, if it was a totally outrageous claim that shows them as an obvious fruitcake - yes, unless i believed her to be dangerous.So if you had someone going around calling you a child killer you'd actually just ignore it. Sorry, sis, that dog don't hunt.
P.S. Is there any truth to her allegations about the attempt to destroy her family? Obviously something set her off. Find it hard to believe this was manufactured purely out of whole cloth.
I'm hoping that he is joking.
Now you all know why God calls people like her a pervert. They twist good and evil.
She is doing it wrong. If they resist, bind them and make them wish they hadn't resisted. And use a paddle, not your hands.
Now you all know why God calls people like her a pervert. They twist good and evil.
Hell no. I love them too much to not do what is right.
Exactly my point. There are those in this thread agreeing with me who have raised children of their own and you do not use the same argument on them; which renders the argument ineffectual and worthless.Why would I tell someone who's raised children that they don't have parenting experience?
You're an idiot.I certainly do. We'll just never know how much the effectiveness of my parenting style overcame a strong will.
We'll never know if nurture edged out nature enough to make a big difference in their lives.
And that's why you don't know. Clearly.
Was that supposed to wound me? You're weak, Anna. And pathetic.Child.
And what of those who have been parents, some to more children than you had, who agree with me on this? Do they also not know of what they speak?That's not the issue of contention, and you well know that. Being a child doesn't give you parenting experience. Parenting does.
THis is you twisting his words to mean something they do not. And you don't care enough to seek an explanation. You are dishonest and disingenuous. You are a godless prat.Now you know why I think your kind of discipline is abusive. You not only beat your little girls with a belt, you'd bind them if they resist and make them wish they hadn't resisted.
Talk about twisting good and evil.
Exactly my point. There are those in this thread agreeing with me who have raised children of their own and you do not use the same argument on them; which renders the argument ineffectual and worthless.
Yes! I'm totally discrediting your pretense of having comparable parental experience.You are simply attempting to discredit me with no valid foundation because there are those who do not fit that criteria who think I'm right. Some of whom have raised more children than you.
Was that supposed to wound me? You're weak, Lighthouse. And pathetic.You're an idiot.
Then I would differ with them regarding discipline, but obviously I wouldn't tell them they didn't have parenting experience. I'd only say that to someone who :idea: didn't have parenting experience.And what of those who have been parents, some to more children than you had, who agree with me on this? Do they also not know of what they speak?
THis is you twisting his words to mean something they do not. And you don't care enough to seek an explanation. You are dishonest and disingenuous. You are a godless prat.