WizardofOz
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He's making a bad point then, WoZ. A friend of mine said that to me the other day. I reminded him that the monuments to Washington and Jefferson aren't in support or recognition of their status as slave owners. They're about a nation's gratitude for service in the founding and preservation of the Republic.
The statues of Confederate generals serve something else, the effort to preserve and advance slavery. We shouldn't memorialize that institution or service to it. If someone wants to convince anyone that the monument to Lee in New Orleans is about his post war service to the city I say fine, commission another statue of him without the uniform.
No one is going to put up an alternative version of Lee. When was the last Lee monument built? Likely around 100 years ago...
No one is talking about putting new monuments up. This is about taking down historical monuments that have stood for (nearly) a century.I think imperfect is a bit too light to describe the nature of anyone who fought to protect and advance a system that permitted the raping, selling, and mutilation of other human beings as though they were nothing at all more than property, without dignity or right.
We compound that "imperfection" when we memorialize it and cover those men with any semblance of honor.
I believe taking those monuments down is precisely a teaching moment. Or at least the evidence of a little learning.
So did the Viet Nam conflict. But I'm adamantly against a statue to Ho Chi Minh in our local park, if it's proposed. And I won't have any trouble remembering that undeclared war without it.
Robert Edward Lee Sculpture. Completed in 1924 and listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1997. It's a historical monument. If those who live in Charlottesville want it removed, let them remove it. If they decide they want it to stay put, how does it pick your pocket? Why would the National Register of Historic Places list this monument as recently as 1997? :think:
When a dime-a-dozen freedom from religion group pushes to remove Christ of the Ozarks in Arkansas, as an example, why shouldn't we support the removal? Or how about a roadside cross in Oregon? Or a cross in a Pensacola park? How about the National Statuary Hall Collection, Capitol Hill, Washington, D.C. Or the Confederate Memorial in Arlington National Cemetery?
I mean I can see how much the talk of bringing these monument down is really easing race relations and uniting people.