Trump: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

[Foxfire]

:mock:

:mock:Then what, find a nice apartment and a decent job?

What? Leave their tents and great job prospects in Puerto Rico? :chuckle:

 

[patrick jane]

You do realize that there is a tremendous shortage of laborers to repair the hurricane damage not only in Florida, but across the gulf coast as well?
These are US citizens that have don't have the obstacles that undocumented workers would have in securing work or travel into the US. And it's a lot easier and cheaper for them to come into the country.

They can take the jobs that the undocumented workers have to leave when they build "THE GREAT WALL of CHUMP"! :chuckle:





A couple hundred thousand motivated new voters in the "swinging chad" state? :idunno:

Great plan for 18 and 20 :thumb:

 

[patrick jane]

:mock:

What? Leave their great job prospects in Puerto Rico?

There will be plenty of work to be done at home. It's funny that you think "a couple hundred thousand" people are going to uproot and hop on a plane to work on the wall IN FLORIDA. :rotfl:.

 

[Foxfire]

I realize it doesn't take much to excite you, especially if you see an opportunity to mock me, which seems to be the only time you post.

Said the :baby: that mocks almost everything I post! :rotfl:

 

[Foxfire]

There will be plenty of work to be done at home. It's funny that you think "a couple hundred thousand" people are going to uproot and hop on a plane to work on the wall IN FLORIDA. :rotfl:.

There isn't/won't be any money available for them to do the work in Puerto Rico. "CHUMP" is already trying to pull back as fast as he can from any efforts to help the 3.5 million US citizens living in Puerto Rico.

You grossly underestimate the driving force of desperation born of hunger, thirst, lack of housing or medical attention.

The humanitarian disaster in Puerto Rico is only just beginning. People are already dying from water born diseases due to a lack of clean water.


Wall in Florida? :noway: The point of the proposed "GREAT WALL of CHUMP" is to stem the flow of undocumented workers into the US from Mexico. (Odd that I would have to point that out to you) That will leave a void in the labor force in many areas around the country that employers will be happy to fill with documented US citizen cheap PR laborers.



No, this won't be "CHUMP'S" Katrina. Katrina's aftermath will pale in comparison.

 

[Foxfire]

:liberals:

Great plan for 18 and 20 :thumb:

Grant and Garfield? :doh:

 

[Town Heretic]

Bill and Hillary Clinton are not speaking to each other after a blazing argument over her election book, it has been claimed.
The former President threw a manuscript in the trash after Hillary ignored his advice not to publish it, according to author Ed Klein.
Bill had red-penned the book in an attempt to improve it, a friend allegedly told Klein, but flew into a rage when Hillary refused to read any of his notes.
According to Page Six, the friend said: ‘He told her the book made her look bewildered, angry and confused, and that those were poor qualities in a person who aspired to be a world leader.
‘He hated the title because calling it “What Happened” would only make people say, “You lost.”
‘He urged her to postpone the pub date and rewrite the book, but she yelled at him and said: “The book is finished and that’s how it’s going to be published”.’
Since then the pair have been speaking through friends and lawyers, the source said

Wow....

If that happened, from what I've seen he was right. But then that's been a problem of hers for a while. She only seems to hear her own voice.

 

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[Town Heretic]

And in the meantime...
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[Tambora]

Puerto Rico is a territory of the United States and is not a state of the United States.
They are run a bit differently.
Puerto Rico has no United States Senate seat.
U.S. Courts have consistently maintained that U.S. citizens in territories do not automatically have or deserve the full rights of U.S. citizens in the 50 states ........ so far.

 

[Town Heretic]

Puerto Rico is a territory of the United States and is not a state of the United States.

Someone thought it was a state? :think: Not that surprising.

"When looking at a map of the world, young Americans had a difficult time correctly identifying Iraq (1 in 7) and Afghanistan (17%). This isn’t that surprising, but only a slim majority (51%) knew where New York was. According to Forbes and National Geographic, an alarming 29% couldn’t point to the Pacific Ocean." Forbes, 2003

They are run a bit differently. Puerto Rico has no United States Senate seat.

True. Only states have senators. The District of Columbia doesn't have them either. :thumb:

U.S. Courts have consistently maintained that U.S. citizens in territories do not automatically have or deserve the full rights of U.S. citizens in the 50 states

........ so far.[/QUOTE]
The "deserve" part is a goofy add. In Downes v Bidwell the holding was that PR is an unincorporated territory and because of this while they possess essential rights, they don't get the full protections of the 14th Amendment relating to citizenship. Citizenship is granted, instead, under the territorial clause of Amendment 4 in conjunction with Article 1. Among the important but few rights denied are the right to vote in national elections, a thing reserved to states. And, of course, Congress can sell the whole thing, deny any future born citizens the right to be citizens, even emancipate PR from our responsibility. Because it's a territorial possession.

Meanwhile, in a nonbinding referendum held in June, 97% of Puerto Ricans voiced their desire to end the prolonged flirtation and become a state.

 

[Tambora]

[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]Someone thought it was a state? :think: Not that surprising.

"When looking at a map of the world, young Americans had a difficult time correctly identifying Iraq (1 in 7) and Afghanistan (17%). This isn’t that surprising, but only a slim majority (51%) knew where New York was. According to Forbes and National Geographic, an alarming 29% couldn’t point to the Pacific Ocean." Forbes, 2003

Sad.
I remember a stat that said 85% of college students couldn't point to the US on a world globe.

The "deserve" part is a goofy add. In Downes v Bidwell the holding was that PR is an unincorporated territory and because of this while they possess essential rights, they don't get the full protections of the 14th Amendment relating to citizenship. Citizenship is granted, instead, under the territorial clause of Amendment 4 in conjunction with Article 1. Among the important but few rights denied are the right to vote in national elections, a thing reserved to states. And, of course, Congress can sell the whole thing, deny any future born citizens the right to be citizens, even emancipate PR from our responsibility. Because it's a territorial possession.

I believe there is also a difference in their taxes.

Meanwhile, in a nonbinding referendum held in June, 97% of Puerto Ricans voiced their desire to end the prolonged flirtation and become a state.

Last I heard, it was about 50/50.
Half wanting statehood, and half wanting to liberate from the US altogether.

Who knows what the future will bring.

 

[Foxfire]

Puerto Rico is a territory of the United States and is not a state of the United States.
They are run a bit differently.
Puerto Rico has no United States Senate seat.
U.S. Courts have consistently maintained that U.S. citizens in territories do not automatically have or deserve the full rights of U.S. citizens in the 50 states ........ so far.

Until they take up residency anywhere within the 50 United States. Then they assume full rights as afforded to any other US citizen who holds residency within any of those respective states.

Conversely, should a US citizen from one of the 50 states take up residency in Puerto Rico, they forfeit their vote in any federal election while maintaining their residency in Puerto Rico.

It all pretty much hinges on where you get your mail.

 

[Foxfire]

There will be plenty of work to be done at home. It's funny that you think "a couple hundred thousand" people are going to uproot and hop on a plane to work on the wall IN FLORIDA. :rotfl:.

As of June 12, 2017;

Nearly half a million Puerto Ricans have fled to the U.S. mainland to escape the island's 10-year economic recession and 12 percent unemployment rate

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06/12/puerto-rico-gov-upholds-statehood-in-vote-hit-by-boycott.html

That was BEFORE the island was destroyed by the hurricane.

 

[patrick jane]

As of June 12, 2017;


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/0...upholds-statehood-in-vote-hit-by-boycott.html

That was BEFORE the island was destroyed by the hurricane.

Great, keep 'em coming :thumb:

 

[patrick jane]

DOJ issues last chance warning for sanctuary cities


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/12/doj-issues-last-chance-warning-to-sanctuary-cities.html

 

[Foxfire]

I believe there is also a difference in their taxes.

Residents of Puerto Rico pay no federal taxes. To require them to do so would constitute taxation without representation.

Last I heard, it was about 50/50. Half wanting statehood, and half wanting to liberate from the US altogether.

Fox news wouldn't put it in percentages, but the numbers they admit to tell the story.

More than half a million people voted for statehood during Sunday's referendum, followed by nearly 7,800 votes for free association/independence and more than 6,800 votes for the current territorial status.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06/12/puerto-rico-gov-upholds-statehood-in-vote-hit-by-boycott.html

"Who knows what the future will bring." :idunno:

 

[Foxfire]

HILARIOUS:

Breitbarts Alt-right guru Steve Bannon comes to his senses and admits that CHUMP only has a 30% chance of finishing his term in office!

:rotfl:

Another right-wing passenger on the "DUMP CHUMP" train!

 

[rexlunae]

Puerto Rico is a territory of the United States and is not a state of the United States.
They are run a bit differently.
Puerto Rico has no United States Senate seat.

It's a colony. It's never had a real say in its own government.

U.S. Courts have consistently maintained that U.S. citizens in territories do not automatically have or deserve the full rights of U.S. citizens in the 50 states ........ so far.

So, I guess just let them die then? Is that the point?

 

[1Mind1Spirit]

Someone thought it was a state? :think: Not that surprising.

When looking at a map of the world, young Americans had a difficult time correctly identifying Iraq (1 in 7) and Afghanistan (17%). This isn’t that surprising, but only a slim majority (51%) knew where New York was. According to Forbes and National Geographic, an alarming 29% couldn’t point to the Pacific Ocean." Forbes, 2003]

There's a great statistical outcome that stemmed from desegregation, hunh?