Trump has 4 more years in office. Accept it.

Trump Gurl

Credo in Unum Deum
Temper, Temper. . . . . Let me know when you grow up

Typical childish response from someone who cannot handle facts., I am more "grown up" then you will ever be.

On Monday, Arizona will hold hearings like Pennsylvania's. The dominoes are starting to fall.

Good call. It looks like Arizona is now coming up:


President Trump’s legal team will participate in a public “hearing” on election integrity with Arizona lawmakers on Monday, Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis announced on Friday.

“Arizona State Legislature to hold hearing on election integrity Monday, November 30. Mayor @RudyGiuliani and I will be present on behalf of President @realDonaldTrump,” she announced, providing a link detailing the event:



 

Trump Gurl

Credo in Unum Deum
I tell you this, I have been listening to the Michigan testimony, and I really think that Biden actually might not become president. We'll see.
 

eider

Well-known member
Did you ever read the book "When Prophecy Fails"? It's worth a read, though it is dated.
You have to be the calmest most unruffled member here. Honestly. :)
As Republican leaders begin to speak out in support of election counts, so the Tribal fanatics are beginning to shout more and more. Pointing at Democrat actions from years back and telling us all how bad they are, quite blind to what their own have done. There are Tribalists on both sides, of course.

And the hatred........ I've wondered if there is some parallel where I live which involves such vast quantities of folks, but I personally don't see it so much within our politics as in some corners of our sports 'industry'.

Some Football supporters here could not sit at table with some others. In Scotland Rangers Supporters and Celtic Supporters hate each other utterly....... and there it is, the religious connection in that hatred as well, one side having once been Catholic and t'other Protestant, even though now I wouldn't think that a tiny % of either side is actually truly Christian.

Tribal hatred...... and neither side can see it.
imo.
 

Trump Gurl

Credo in Unum Deum
Did you ever read the book "When Prophecy Fails"? It's worth a read, though it is dated.

Look, I am under no Illusions about what is going on. I understand that Trump's chances of getting sworn in for the second term now are slim to none. I understand that it is most likely that Biden will get sworn in. But I also know for an absolute fact that Trump really won, that there was gross fraud and malfeasance, and I will hold out hope until the end that legal system fixes that.
Of course the legal system lets criminals go free all the time so I won't be surprised if the criminals who stole this election go free too. If that happens then we fall back on Plan B.
For 4 years the Left did a pretty good job at making Trump's presidency unmanageable and put a roadblock in front of much of what he was trying to do. What they did is peanuts compared to what we will do. We already know that the American people are behind us because of our sweeping wins in the house and across state legislatures, so don't be fooled for a moment. We have the people on our side, and thank God we have a Supreme Court that sides with the Constitution.

And the hatred

Why does England brutalize Ireland? Ireland is a free country and your jackbooted fascist army has occupied it and murdered Catholic Irish for years. Instead of crying about Trump which is none of your business, how about stopping your war crimes which have been going on for 100 years!

That's right, you just need to shut up you foreigner interloper. Democrats are people who burn down cities, murder cops, terrorize neighborhoods, have roving Nazi brownshirts (BLM and Antifa), shut down churches, impose Nazi curfews, and so much more.
Democrats are the party of infanticide, socialism, government control, smashing Free Speech rights, giving free stuff to illegal aliens, and now they are the party of mobs in the streets burning and destroying cities. See the burning cities and torn down statues, and you see the democrat party world. Mobs.

And you talk about hate.

Now, you just worry about your little teeny tiny island over there okay? Get your stormtroopers out of Ireland.


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chair

Well-known member
You have to be the calmest most unruffled member here. Honestly. :)
As Republican leaders begin to speak out in support of election counts, so the Tribal fanatics are beginning to shout more and more. Pointing at Democrat actions from years back and telling us all how bad they are, quite blind to what their own have done. There are Tribalists on both sides, of course.

And the hatred........ I've wondered if there is some parallel where I live which involves such vast quantities of folks, but I personally don't see it so much within our politics as in some corners of our sports 'industry'.

Some Football supporters here could not sit at table with some others. In Scotland Rangers Supporters and Celtic Supporters hate each other utterly....... and there it is, the religious connection in that hatred as well, one side having once been Catholic and t'other Protestant, even though now I wouldn't think that a tiny % of either side is actually truly Christian.

Tribal hatred...... and neither side can see it.
imo.
Oh, I get ruffled sometimes.

There are odd things in this world. In most of Israel, for example, Muslims and Jews get along just fine. Better than Christians and Muslim get along in some countries. Not that you would know it from the news.

The US has become very tribal. Ms. Trump Gurl illustrates this quite nicely (and thanks to her for that!). The US remains very racist, which I find very disturbing. I grew up nearly "color blind" in the Midwest back in the 60's, but that had more to do with my parents and liberal Jewish thinking at the time than with the general race attitudes in the US.
 

chair

Well-known member
I AM SAYING THAT ALL THE RACISM IS ON THE LEFT YOU STUPID DOLT. Can't you speak English?
Actually, I speak English quite well. Do you understand English. I am not "the left", and there is plenty of racism on the right as well. In your twisted world, "left"= "evil", and since racism is evil, it must "belong" to the left.
 

Trump Gurl

Credo in Unum Deum
Actually, I speak English quite well

Good.

Do you understand English. I am not "the left"

Really! Well for someone who is not on the Left you sure seem to side with them all the time.

there is plenty of racism on the right as well

Never seen it. Prove it. And I mean prove there is "plenty", not just the errant skinhead idiot here and there. I mean on the scale of your BLM mobs.

And I am not sure what racism has to do with this topic.
 

eider

Well-known member
To @chair

Well, you don't do too badly here! :)
Back in the 60's the bigotry here was mostly all about class. Our whole society was riddled with it.
Further up this thread I noticed a pic looking like an Irish Mural. Did you know that the Northern Irish Catholic fighters felt very empathetic towards the Palestinians? May still do..... I still have a couple of photos which show that close bond (from back then).

I used to lecture retail security trainees in Belfast about every six months and stay with a retired police sergeant for the week when I was over there. One evening some of his friends invited to take me wherever I would like to go in Belfast (they had clubs and pubs in mind) and I asked to go see all the Murals. They were very very surprised, but they did exactly that. It was 2007 and I had just bought my first digital camera.

The things I leaned that evening. The Catholic Murals were much more artistic and accurate, the Protestant ones were mostly more naive with mistakes like six fingers on a hand etc..... and I just filled that early camera with every low definition pic it could hold. On the side of the Co-op supermarket in the Shankill Road is a huge Mural to Bobby Sands and a man was collecting money in a bucket at the store entrance. Everybody just put in....

Nothern Ireland is another country, you can still buy and keep a handgun if you live there, the only place in the UK. And I learned that folks like that (Protestant) police sergeant and his mates could tell a Catholic on sight for the first time, any time. I didn't believe it so asked him if he or his mates could demonstrate that. They could! Every time! How? The two peoples had lived apart for so long that they had developed differing features, and they proved it by pointing out the Catholics in that restaurant who gladly shook my hand and confirmed same to me when I explained that I had a bet with the Proddies at the table in the corner. Oh yes.

That's where the Celtic/Rangers thing comes back in to the picture.... years later we were driving around Scotland and stayed in a tiny village B&B for the night. We walked in to a pub that evening and because of what I'd learned in N.I. I knew immediately that we were in the wrong one. The whole crowd just stared at us, and I apologised and asked where our pub might be...... a big geezer gave polite directions and asked how I knew... I told him that Catholics looked more handsome than us lot. The place erupted in to laughter and they insisted that we stay as their guests.... we never were allowed to buy a drink.

Oh yes...... the troubles, that the vast majority of Americans know nothing about. If a collector took a bucket in to an American bar and asked for funds for Irish Freedom Fighters it could be filled and not a soul in the place would have known where the guns went to, the Protestants or the Catholics, the UDA or the UFF etc etc.......
I have a pic of me standing by huge steel gates 12 feet high which are slammed shut to close communities off when troubles erupt.

If I knew how to post up pics 'd show you the ones where Catholics are Saluting the Palestinian warriors, and the Palestinian sign was the open hand and forward v-sign, like the Churchillian one.... you might tell me what the Arabic slogans mean?
 
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Arthur Brain

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Good.



Really! Well for someone who is not on the Left you sure seem to side with them all the time.



Never seen it. Prove it. And I mean prove there is "plenty", not just the errant skinhead idiot here and there. I mean on the scale of your BLM mobs.

And I am not sure what racism has to do with this topic.

Have you actually been looking?



Plenty more.

Plus, Trump on the proud boys...

 

Trump Gurl

Credo in Unum Deum
Plus, Trump on the proud boys...

The Proud Boys are not racists you tool. You see, you are so full of hate and lies and leftist propaganda you don't even know fact from fiction.

YOUR racist BLM mobs are the ones killing cops, burning down cities and terrorizing the streets.

I don't see any "white" group doing that.

I am totally done with your sick lies disgusting garbage. You are a total reprobate. You are totally lost.
 
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