Top physicist on climate change....

Quetzal

Quetzal

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brewmama said:
Do you? You said the data supports that theory. I'm asking you what data.
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Graph one, notice we pick up around 1960...
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Graph two, notice what also begins to happen around 1960...
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brewmama

brewmama

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Quetzal said:
Graph one, notice we pick up around 1960...
co2_data_mlo.png

Graph two, notice what also begins to happen around 1960...
dn11639-2_808.jpg
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http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/daleo-cru-msu-co2.png?w=720

Sorry,global temps correlate much better with PDO and solar irradiance than CO2 concentration.

This is verified by this paper:

"The dramatic and threatening environmental changes announced for the next decades are the result of models whose main drive factor of climatic changes is the increasing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Although taken as a premise, the hypothesis does not have verifiable consistence.
The anthropogenic wasting of fossil fuel CO2 to the atmosphere shows no relation with the temperature changes even in an annual basis. The absence of immediate relation between CO2 and temperature is evidence that rising its mix ratio in the atmosphere will not imply more absorption and time residence of energy over the Earth surface."

http://www.scirp.org/Journal/PaperI...e=newsletter&utm_medium=ijg13&utm_campaign=01
 
Quetzal

Quetzal

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brewmama said:
Sorry,global temps correlate much better with PDO and solar irradiance than CO2 concentration.

This is verified by this paper:

"The dramatic and threatening environmental changes announced for the next decades are the result of models whose main drive factor of climatic changes is the increasing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Although taken as a premise, the hypothesis does not have verifiable consistence.
The anthropogenic wasting of fossil fuel CO2 to the atmosphere shows no relation with the temperature changes even in an annual basis. The absence of immediate relation between CO2 and temperature is evidence that rising its mix ratio in the atmosphere will not imply more absorption and time residence of energy over the Earth surface."

http://www.scirp.org/Journal/PaperI...e=newsletter&utm_medium=ijg13&utm_campaign=01
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That is another theory. Yes.
 
Bob Enyart

Bob Enyart

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Quetzal said:
...I don't care how acclaimed you are, if you cannot present a sensible, accountable set of data to counter what we already have, you should not be included in the discussion.
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Quetzal, I had the acclaimed guy on the show who got all the press for writing the open letter to the pope, at http://rsr.org/warming. I don't know if you heard that program, but we presented a sensible interpretation of the same data used by the climate change folks, just fyi.

- Bob E.
 
gcthomas

gcthomas

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Bob Enyart said:
Quetzal, I had the acclaimed guy on the show who got all the press for writing the open letter to the pope, at http://rsr.org/warming. I don't know if you heard that program, but we presented a sensible interpretation of the same data used by the climate change folks, just fyi.

- Bob E.
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What does this man actually know about the technicalities of climate change? He is not a trained scientist or educated in fields to help him make accurate judgements about the state of the art. Do we end up having to just trust his judgements? He doesn't have a good track record of making sensible comments about other scientific areas (wanting gay AIDS sufferers placed in quarantine comes to mind.)
 
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